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Hi!

I have a Disk and partition backup which was named "WDC_WD5000AAKX-75U6AA0" when I made it. The backup file name became WDC_WD5000AAKX-75U6AA0_full_b1_s1_v1.tib for the first backup. I would like to have a file name which starts with the PC name instead of the disk name. I thought it was enough to change the backup name in the settings dialogue to PC-name but this did not change the beginning of the file name of the tib-files. Do I really have to start all over from the beginning and create a new backup in order to change the file names or is there any way to change the file name in the current backup? I did not find such a way so far. The manual (chapter 3.3) explains that the backup file name starts with the name of the task but this does not seem to be true after changing the task name (backup name).

/ Arne

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The appearance of "_full_b1_s1_v1.tib" is out of your control. That or something very similiar willl be added to t he end of every backup. However, the user does have control over what the beginnning part of the tib file name is; and user has control over what the task or backup name will be.

Understand that there is two names involved. The task name (Acroniis calls it the backup name) which appear on your main screen as a task name and then the name user assigns to the tib file name. User has only one opportunity to set the tib file name and that is when the task creation process reaches the assign destinaion pphase as per this illustration. A later change of task name (backup name) does not change the name of the tib file name.

Fig 05 Assign folder & tib backup file name..Assign name to TIB backup file.

There is no way to change the name of a tib file name if the task is to continue as active. A change of name wil only change for the next backup and then revert back to the original. So, You will need to start a new task to get exactly what you want.

Review the link above and I believe you would also benefit by a review of my signature link 2-A below.
It is possible to have use the @machine@ in the tib file name to get the program to assign the machine name to each tib it creates. This is also illustrted in the picture above.

Thank you. I have now made a new task and got the names as I wanted them.

I looked at your link 2-A and have a question. As I understand it, there is no difference of the result of the backup if a disk is selected in disk mode or if ALL partitions on that disk is selected in partition mode. Is this correct understanding? You suggest disk mode but I have used partition mode and selected all partitions on the disk. The estimated size of the backup at least becomes the same both ways.

I also have a question on scheduling. I have been using Norton Ghost before and scheduled it to run every Sunday with a full backup the first Sunday of each month (and incremental other Sundays). Then I scheduled a file copy in Windows of the full backup file to a network storage (using a command file) to run the first Sunday each month to have a copy in another place.

In True Image Home, I can only set the number of incremental backup between each full backup which means that I can not obtain a full backup the first Sunday in each month (when I schedule the backup to run every Sunday). The reason is that the number of Sundays per month is not the same in each month. Thus it does not work nicely together with the Windows scheduler and my desire to copy each full backup to a network storage. Now I set 3 incremental backups between full backups on run the task every Sunday, but then I do not find a proper way to schedule my copy command file in Windows to run the same Sundays as the full backup is performing. What I would like to do is to get a full backup once a month and preferably a Sunday. Or alternatively, to find a way of copying the full backups of True Image Home the saem day as they are created using a Windows command file and Windows scheduler. Is there a solution to this scheduling problem?

I know I can make a backup reserve copy in the advanced settings of True Image Home, but then all backups will be copied to the network storage which I do not want. I also change the network storage destination from month to month which is not possible with this method but can easily be done by changing the destination of the Windows file copy command file.

The differences between a disk image backup and a partition image backup of the same partitions comes into play during the restore phase. Of the two, the disk image offers more options to make the restore easier to perform. The disk image backup enables the user to perform a disk image restore which will do the restore without the need to configure each partition. This feature can reduce the number of steps needed to restore but depending upon the type and sequence of the partitions. To me, the disk image is the preferred choice in that you loose nothing and have the possibility to make the restore much easier depending upon how the computer partitions are configured.

The scheduling issue has a work around, While what you want is not possible solely using TrueImage, but when you combine TrueImage with the helper program Chain2Gen (C2G), the scheduling options you want IS AVAILABLE and have been since Nov 2009. C2G has many options and it includes the option to enable the backup on any specific day including the 1st Sunday to be a full backup. The only issue would be if computer is not working at the scheduled backup time. Then, you miss your trigger window until the next trigger window occurs; or you manually execute the trigger at any time of your choosing after the missed time.

It is also possible to retain a specific number of complete backup chains (full + x incremental) such as 4 sets which would be keeping 4 months of weekly backups. User choice of how many chains to keep.

The choice of user controlled parameters are specific inside and stored in the
!_USER_SPECIFIED_PARAMS_FOR_ACRONIS.bat
which is part of the zip download.
C2G requires that the storage folder be named set0 (numeric zero). If monthly copies retained, these monthly chains will be stored in set1, set2, set3, etc depending upon how many chains you configure C2G to keep.

:: C2G MANDATORY VARIABLES
:: User must change these next 3 variable and supply their own pertinent information.
set TARGET_UNC_N_DEVICE=L: (note example--may need to use UNC)
set TARGET_GENERATIONS_FOLDER=\Arnes-NewBackup\ (note: must begin and end with \
set MAX_BACKUP_GENERATIONS=4 (number of monthly chains to keep)

Optional variables would include Option 5 example next
set TRGR_ON_OCRDAY1=Sun

:: C2G Option 5 set a trigger based on today being a specific occurrence of day in a month such as start a new chain on 2nd saturday of the month "2nd_Sat" (no quotes) (Typical usage is similar to monthly generations but user needs to have the full backup occur on a specific day such as on a sunday.
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Schedule: TrueImage is used to run the weekly schedule every Sunday.

How many backups: The TrueImage backup scheme is set to incremental.
Each Full followed by infinite incrementals. C2G will allow the backups to be created and only intervene on First Sunday (set TRGR_ON_OCRDAY1=Sun) at which time C2G will rename storage folder set0 to set1 and create a new empty set0 folder. TI finds the set0 empty and creates a new full to start a new chain.

The TrueImage backup task must point to the set0 storage folder wherever you want it stored. That path must be input into C2G using the " set TARGET_GENERATIONS_FOLDER=\Arnes-NewBackup\" except omitting the set0 name.

To explore more about using this program, check out this link
Click on my signature link 1 and browse the guides index to item 5: Guides by OracleDBA. There you will find links to the zip program file and also index item 5-B
Not all material covered in this thread--just a few basics. It looks more daunting than it really is but it works when properly configured.

Thank you!

I will look into the program Chain2Gen later.

I have been reading about restoring to a new disk in the manual and it seems more complicated to do in True Image Home than Norton Ghost. It is however not clear what the difference is between restoring from a tib file made in disk mode or partition mode (with all partitions on the disk included). However, in step 5 (chapter 4.5.1) it is stated "Do not select the MBR and Track 0 box, because that till result in selecting the entire disk for recovery". But is this not exactly what I want to do if the disk has crashed and I want to restore the wholöe disk content to a new disk? I most likely will only restore when the old disk crashes (except ceratin files when I mount the tib file and copy them). Is this MBR and Track 0 check box only availabel when disk mode has been used when the back was made and is this what I should select to restore the whole disk to a new disk of equal or larger size? If the answer is yes, I certainly should perform disk mode backup and not partition mode backups as I have done so far.

To me, the preferred is always the disk mode backup as I stated above. Its benefits will depend upon the type of how many partitons you currently have and the size of restore target.

Review my signature link 3 below and review items 1 and 2. Post a screen capture of your current Windows Disk Management graphical view. Would your new disk be larger or smaller than the existing disk?

Remember, TrueImage is designed to recover your existing system so restoring to a replacement new disk (to go back into the same computer) should not be a problem either with disk mode or partition mode backups. If need to restore to a new motherboard or a new computer, then you need the plus or premium version of TrueImage which offers the added feature of "universal restore".

I am using True Image Home 2014 on several PCs and I am now running the trial version (I want to test it before deciding to change from Norton to Acronis) on a new Dell Optiplex which has 4 partitions, see the enclosed screen shot from the disk manager. The RECOVERY is the Active partition and OS includes Windows, program files and user files. D does not include much at all but I like to have a D partition for less important things. I have created this partition myself after resizing the OS partition. The other partitions are as the PC was shipped (except OS is now smaller). The small OEM FAT partition to the left is new to me with my last three Dell Optiplex PCs and I am not sure what it is used for. It is shown both in the partition mode and disk mode of True Image Home, see two other screen shots and I did select it before in partititon mode and it becomes included now when I have changed to disk mode. I have also used the Disk Image function in Windows 7 and then it is not shown in the list of partitions so I believe it is not included in such a disk image, see the fourth screen shot. It is also listed in Norton Ghost as a hidden partition but it is not included in the backup even when selected! I do not know if this partition is needed if the disk have to be restore in future. My previous PCs have never had such a partition.

I have now created a new task on the PC using the trial version and I have chosen disk mode. I hope this will be useful for restoring the whole disk if the current disk crashes. In this case, I will never restore to a smaller disk but use a disk of the same size or larger. I read your guide about restoring to an equal size disk and this seems quite straight forward. I quickly browsed the other guide too and it will be useful if I ever need to restore.

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To add to your store of information about your computer, you also need to know if you are using GPT style partitioning.

Open your Windows Disk Mangement again as you did for jpg 49 above.
Once you have the picture again on the screen, along the top menu rown.
Click the View option, click the Top option and then click the Disk list option.
Note now the extreme right margin column headed "Partition style".
If you have GPT partitioning, it will be listed in this column.

If GPT is listed, then gather a little more info for yourself by performing another check for information using Windows Disk Part command tool as per the illustration below. When done, compare how the sequence and number of partitions listed in each screen. You might even want a screen capture (snippiing tool) and print them for your own records and retention. This is just good info about your computer so you know whether you have MBR or GPT style partitioning. Your screens will show information about your specific brand computer and may not match what you see in my illlustrations.

Using  Windows DispPart to show partiton information.

Use DiskPart to view GPF information on your disk. GPF info not visible on Windows Disk Management. Use DiskPart or a current partitioning utiliy to see partitins not displayed by Windows Disk Management or by Acronis TrueImage.

If your backup is made using the "disk image" option rather than the Partition image, then you should be all set for your restores to old or new disk.
Make your backup like your example and you are all set.
http://forum.acronis.com/system/files/screenshot_-_2014-05-17__18_24_05…

When doing a restore, your best option is a disk option restore if applicable to the disk size as per my signatre link #3, item 2 "disk option restore". Using this option will restore you partitions in the same order as listed in your example
http://forum.acronis.com/system/files/screenshot_-_2014-05-17__18_21_49…

If you ever restore to a larger or smaller disk, then you will need to use the procedures used in link 3, item 1 and be sure that you restore each partition in the same sequence as listed in your example and make the same partitons as active as shown by your example.
http://forum.acronis.com/system/files/screenshot_-_2014-05-17__18_21_49…

Good luck.

Thank you! I think I am all set now but hope that I will never need my backups!