disk cloning kills my new disk
Hello
I have a very strange problem!
I have a Dell Laptop with a 80GB harddisk with some sectors errors!
Now I clone this disk to a new 320GB disk - and after the fist start of XP I see just a harddisk with 80GB
Even in the bios or in a other computer I don't get my 320GB back!
It's not a wrong partition, it's really the disk which has only 80GB!
I even ordred a second 320GB disk - and did the same - and the result is also the same!
All diagnostic tool and also the Acronis disk director see just 80GB!
How can this be possible! Is there a way, how I can get my 320GB back?
Thanks
Pascal
How exactly are you doing the clone? Does your laptop allow both the old and the new drives to be present or is one in a USB enclosure?
Pascal:
Do you have a Dell laptop with the infamous "Media Direct" HPA (Host Protected Area)? These laptops require special treatment in order to avoid the issue that you just encountered. If you have one of these, read on. If not, ignore this message.
On Grover's Index of Reference Links, click on item 7B. This will open an article by Grover in the old forum. Click on the first link Partition Restore with Resizing and have a look at page 9 for instructions on how to get your missing space back.
Ken:
I deleted all partition on this disk, but the max size for new partition is really just the 80GB!
It's not a partiton problem! It's the size of the disk!
Seekforever:
I copied with external USB harddisk.
First time as a image and restore
Secound time with diskclone - so now I have two 320GB with just 80GB!!!
I also tried a 3 time with the same harddsik with the option to keep the partion sizes - so the disk works fine - but just with 80GB - no option to get more!
Also in the bios - I see just 80GB
K0LO:
It's not a partiton problem! It's the size of the disk which is wrong!
What does Disk Management (in Administrative Services) say the size is? What if you delete the volume there and create a new simple volume? How big is that?
Personally, from previous experience, I do not like cloning. I think it is safer to create the partitions manually and then do individual backups and restores to the new drive.
Is there a way, how I can get my 320GB back?
Pascal,
Easily done.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=167401&page=2#27
K0LO:
It's not a partiton problem! It's the size of the disk which is wrong!
Precisely - that was my point. The articles that I referenced explain why this happened and what to do about it. See Brian K's post above also; he's the author of the solution for fixing cloned hard disks that contain the HPA from a Dell laptop with MediaDirect.
Good old Dell. I had something like that happen at work. I used western digital tools to get the full size back.
Cloning is a peculiar operation for many TI users. It is the only thing I use - regularly (weekly) on three com0puters, 1 XP, 1 Vista, and 1 Win 7. Basically I have learned this after about 10 years of cloning drives.
1. Always clone using the bootable rescue media.
2. Always use Manual mode.
3. Select source drive.
4. Select target drive.
5. Delete all partitions on the target drive. Keep all data on source drive.
6. If the drives are different size, use PROPORTIONAL.
7. When done, swap your cables if necessary, or turn off the source drive power.
8. Boot to the newly cloned drive. Your computer should find new hardware, etc., and a reboot is necessary.
It really is foolproof if you avoid all automation and trying to clone from within Windows. That **** - you get a much less useful GUI when you reboot. It does its work in Command Prompt format. With rescue media, you get a full Linux-based GUI.
With a laptop, the game can be different because most do not allow for two HDDs internally. A USB external is very slow. I do mine using an eSATA external connected to an eSATA Express card. That does my 320 GB drive in about 10 minutes whereas a USB link runs about i hour.
What I have did was get a second HDD drive caddy for my laptop and I do it this way.
1. Clone the internal HDD to the external HDD.
2. Disconnect the eSATA link and reboot to prove that nothing was changed on the source drive.
3. Power down and replace the Source drive with the new HDD. I then put the Source drive in a pouch and have a ready to use reserve drive.
4. I then reconnect the eSATA link, and again boot to the TI Rescue disk, and proceed to clone from the external drive to the newly installed internal laptop HDD.
5. When finished, I disconnect the eSATA link and boot the laptop to the new drive. It has never failed.
Thanks for all your help! Specaly to Brian and Kolo!
My Problem was solved with the following link: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#FeatureTool
So I could resize my disk!
The help on Grover's Index of Reference Links, helps just for IDE Harddisk, not for my SATA Harddsik!
To delete the DELL Entry you need http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=24&Action=NewOSID&DownloadVersion=2
And the explanation form Grover's Website:
Double click sectedit.exe. In the Select Disk box choose Physical 0 and click Open. (DON’T choose any of the drive letters). Use the arrows at the bottom right to find LBA-3. It should take 3 clicks. Here is mine which is already zeroed. Your sector should have code.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...gree/LBA-3.gif
Click Edit, Zero Data. Now you should see all zeroes. Click File, Save Sector. Close Roadkil. Double click sectedit.exe again and confirm that LBA-3 has been zeroed.
The problem was really DELL with "Media Direct"! Unbelievable!!! - Sorry for my title - Acronis is wonderful!!!
I ran the cloning funktion with TIhome11. Both drives were SATA 1 TB-drives (WD). The new drive was recognized and the new partitions, which will be created, were shown correctly but after cloning the new drive had only 32MB (the size of the cache). How can I get my 1 TB back? Can anyone help me?
Hello Carsten,
Let me assist you.
Most likely, there were some issue during the cloning process and unused space became unallocated. Please start Windows Disk Management from Start- > Run -> diskmgmt.msc and check if there will be any unallocated space.
After that you can right-click on that unallocated space and create a new partition.
Please reply to this thread if you have any additional questions.
Thank you.
Hello Ilya,
thanks for your reply. I did that before. But the Disk Mangement also shows that 32MB unallocated space and there is no possibility to create a bigger partition.
Hello Carsten,
In this case we need some additional information.
- Please create a screen shot of Windows Disk Management;
- Please collect Acronis Report;
- Please attach the gathered information to your reply to this thread.
We are looking forward to hearing back from you at your earliest convenience.
Thank you.
Hello Ilya,
it is very strange but there is no Acronis Report available of todays job even after rebooting. The last one listed is from 5.5. and that backup-operation was successfull.
The screenshot of Windows Disk Management is attached.
Thank you for your help, Carsten
Hello Carsten,
I may recommend you to check the disks for errors:
- Go to the Command Prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd)
- Enter the command: "chkdsk DISK: /r"
where DISK is the partition letter you need to check. Please note, that checking the C: drive may require you to reboot the machine.
If this won't help, please initialize the disk by the means of Acronis True Image. See Chapter 15 of the User's Guide for more details.
Thank you.