TIH 2012 Clone Disk Error MFT Bitmap Corrupted
I have installed TIH 2012 with Plus Pack Build 5545. System Is Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit. I installed a new SATA 1 TB Seagate Barracuda drive so that I can move my system over to this drive from a 100 GB IDE. After I move the system I want to format the 100 GB IDE and use it for additional storage. I tried using the clone disk function of TIH 2012 and after the program sets up the source and destination drives it starts with a popup window "time remaining:calculating" and then it fails. The TIH Log has the following;
Failed to prepare operations. Error Code: 10 "File system error is found" with extended code 458,776" "MFT Bitmap corrupted". Event code:0x000A0001+0x00070018
I found similar errors in the TIH 2011 forum and followed the discussion and even tried the fixes recommended but no good. I am not sure this problem in the 2011 edition was really fixed so it may be a carryover and still remains an open issue which tells me I probably bought a bug loaded product.
I have tried removing and reinstalling both TIH 2012 and TIH 2012 Plus Pack but no good.
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I tried cloning from the recovery CD as you suggested and it fails with the message "Kernel Panic - Not Syncing:VFS"
Based on what I am reading on this forum it looks like I might have made a mistake buying this TIH 2012 - looks like it is loaded with bugs. Reviews appeared good but I guess I should have looked into this forum for the real story.
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Kernel Panic indicates some Linux driver issues. Regardless of the purpose of cloning, you need to have a working recovery CD for ATI to be useful to you (this is true for any imaging software you might want to try).
Since the recovery CD you tried doesn't work, download the latest bootable media ISO from your Acronis account and burn it *as an ISO* to a CD. Try again with that CD.
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Pat,
OK I did as you suggested and I downloaded the latest bootable media from my Acronis account and burned the CD. Booted and ran clone from the bootable CD and after the cloning process starts I get the operation failed. The log contains these entries in this order "Operation with partion "D" was terminated|details:|MFT bitmap corrupted (0x70018)|" and "Disk\local\HD_Sign(9C2C05F9) has invalid BIOS number (0). The following value will be used:'128'.
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Run chkdsk /r on that drive.
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folks should read about the /r option prior to running the command -- there can be some serious side effects.
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I should have added that I had already ran the chkdsk /r on both drives before I booted the CD and tried the cloning operation.
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John,
Is there a way you could use a disk and partition backup of your 100GB to an external USB disk? Then we will restore that to your new disk.
Let's try to do this from the recovery CD.
Here are the reasons why we should test this:
- if you can backup from the recovery CD, you will be able to restore, and we have tested that,
- if the backup fails, we know there is a problem with your source disk,
- if the restore fails, we know there is a problem with the new disk.
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Pat,
I did a Acronis backup of my system disk to my Seagate USB drive within windows and it worked. I then restored that backup to my new SATA drive using the recovery CD. That completed successfully as well. I then tried to boot from the new SATA (My new Windows System) after removing power from my old Windows System IDE drive. The system hangs at boot with a bllinking cursor. I then used my Windows 7 repair disk to try and recover the new SATA System. First repair indicated "no valid partition table' but that recovery was successful. Second try failed to boot and using the Windows reapir disk I did another repair this time it said"The partition table dows not have a valid System Partition". It indicated that this reapir was successful as well. I tried to boot again, stiwon't boot with blinking cursor. I tried repair two more times each time the same error of not having a valid System Partition but each time repair indicated it was successful. Still not able to boot from the new SATA drive. I then booted from my original system disk (IDE) and went into System Management to take a look at my disk drives. Attached is the snapshot.
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I booted my Windows 7 Repair Disk and "repaired" my Windows 7 System on my IDE drive to make sure everything is OK with it. Everything was clean with the system drive. I then booted my Acronis recovery CD and tried backing up using the drive backup option to get all partitions on my system drive (C: and H:) to my USB drive and then restoring back to my new SATA drive. The backup worked fine but when I went to restore, again using my Acronis recovery CD, to my new SATA drive I get the MFT Bitmap corrupted message followed by the invalid BIOS number (0) and the value being changed to '128' and the operation fails. Same error as when I try cloning in Windows.
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==> I did a Acronis backup of my system disk to my Seagate USB drive within windows and it worked. I then restored that backup to my new SATA drive using the recovery CD. That completed successfully as well.
If I understand this correctly:
original boot drive backed-up external drive backed-up new sata drive and now want to boot the new sata drive? (assuming these are images with correct settings along the way)
If I have this correct, I would not expect it to work. How would the boot sector/boot mgr/boot.ini be transferred from the first device to the last and remain consistent?
You may want to invest in Paragon's toolset -- allows manual editing of boot sectors/boot mgr/boot.ini
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hhansard,
I did just what you did, I backed up my system disk (IDE) to my Seagate USB drive within windows and it worked fine. I then tried to restore that backup to my new SATA drive using the recovery CD and it failed with the MFT bitmap corrupted message followed by the invalid BIOS (0) message.
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I did not do that... Just trying to understand what you are trying to do... Still left in the same position... Don't see why it would work.
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Sorry didn't realize you were quoting me. So if cloning from one system hard drive (IDE) to create another on a new SATA drive using my external USB drive as the repository doen't work then what good is the cloning function of TIH 2012?
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Is this a brand name computer?
Does a reverse clone work? - put source drive in external caddy, destination drive in machine.
Boot from recovery CD to perform clone.
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If I back up my existing system drive (IDE) directly to my new SATA drive should that create a bootable SATA drive?
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John,
Did you backup and restore the system reserved partition with the C:\system partition?
In your snapshot, is disk2 the result of your restore? Is Disk2 the disk you are trying to restore to?
To be clear:
- your backup needs to include the system reserved partition and the C:\system partition,
- once the backup has completed, put your new disk at the same spot as your old disk,
- restore first the system reserved partition, mark it primary active, leave a 1MB offset before that partition, do not resize it,
- then restore C:\system. Can you resize it to take advantage of your bigger disk,
- then restore the MBR+Track0 and the disk signature.
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Pat,
Yes disk2 is the new SATA drive I am trying to restore to. After I made that snapshot I took another disk backup to get all of the partitions (C and H).I'll try it again using your suggestions and report back.
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OK. So you didn't restore the system reserved partition and this is why your system is not functional. When you reboot the first time after the restore, make sure you don't have the original disk in the system (you can put it back later and do what you want with it)
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Pat,
Using the TIH Recovery CD I backed up the IDE Win 7 System drive including the System Reserved (H:) and the Windows System (C:). And then restored the System Reserved partition with the 1MB offset to my new SATA drive, I restored the System (C:) and resized my new partition at 150 GB and marked it active. I then restored the MBR+Track0 and the disk signature. I removed power from my old IDE System drive and then rebooted after setting the new drive boot order in BIOS. The new SATA would not boot. I then booted my Windows 7 recovery disk and tried repair. I tried this three times and each time I got the following message - "The Partition Table does not have a valid System Partition". I rebooted the TIH CD and did the MBR+Track0 and the disk signature again. I tried to boot the new SATA and again it failed. This time the Win 7 recovery CD repair came bck with "Missing OS loader Error Code=0x490". I tried win 7 repair on this three times as well with no success. I tried bootrec /FIXMBR and /FIXBOOT but /FIXMBR worked but /FIXBOOT came back with "Element Not Found". When I boot my Win 7 CD for repair with just my SATA drive connected there is no Windows System listed to repair. However, if I leave both my old IDE and my new SATA connected and then boot the Win 7 repair CD it sees both Win 7 systems. Then when I select the SATA Win 7 system for repair it finds no errors. I suspect for whatever reason the Win 7 repair is looking at my old IDE Win7 system and never gets to my new SATA Win 7 system. I don't do a repair on my old IDE Win 7 because I don't want to take a chance of messing it up as well. Not sure what to do next.
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I wonder if the W7 BCD is confused because it's looking for an absolute boot file address rather than a referenced one.
This can be amended at the W7 recovery prompt, but you'd need to check out some of Mark or Mudcrabs posts or see the Microsoft knowledge base on how to alter the BCD contents.
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John,
The system reserved partition should be the active one, not the C:\system one.
If you still have a problem:
With only your restore drive in the computer, boot on the Win7 recovery CD, go to a command prompt and type:
- bootrec /scanOS
Your Windows 7 should be detected. If not, you didn't restore correctly. If yes,
- bootrec /rebuildBCD
- bootrec /fixMBR
- bootrec /fixboot
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Well after unsuccessful multiple attempts and a good deal of time trying to restore my Windows 7 system IDE drive to my new SATA drive I decided to do a clean install of Windows 7 on my new SATA drive. All went well but I did have to spend some time recovering programs, documents, etc., that I had hoped to avoid by using the clone feature of Acronis TIH 2012. I hope they get this product cleaned up soon, the design is a good one but the execution with this release is far from being satisfactory. Thanks to Pat and Colin for your help.
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I'm having the same issues.
So far 2012 has been a waste of a purchase. I've spent all day trying to clone a drive. Tried on 3 different systems without success.
It seems that Trueimage is best suited as a tool to convince you to do new OS installs and copy files and install programs manually.
This will be my last purchase ever from this company.
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Keith,
There are a couple of issues being reported in this thread, which one specifically are you encountering?
Are you trying to clone the OS drive and if you are, are you using the Windows based version of TIH or the recovery CD?
Some info about your system would be useful, eg: is this a Lenovo laptop, is it a laptop period, how is the destination drive attached?
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Colin,
I appreciate you trying to help. However I've solved my problem in the last hour or so since I posted.
I know this might sound like an attempt at humor... but I was able to successfully clone the disk in one try... by downloading the free version of Reflect from Macrium.
It's very disappointing that a free and relatively young product works with no problems where an expensive and supposedly mature product failed consistently.
To directly answer your question I have tried to clone on 3 systems in both windows and from the bootable media versions and all 3 had numerous issues (not seeing the drives properly or failing to clone once I was able to make the new drive visible with the corrupt mft error.)
There's no sugar coating it. Trueimage has serious flaws. Consider the months we had to wait in order to be able to simply backup to a network drive?
Anyway, thanks for the attempt to help. But you can't fix inherent bugs. The only fix for that is better programming and recognition by the company that it's product has problems.
Lastly I have to say that it's surprising that a product that customers rely on to protect them from data loss is so prone to problems that will result in exactly what it's designed to protect against.
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Today, I received the same error code in TIH 2012, successfully recovered whole disk via the startup recovery option.
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