True Image Home plus pack not cloning under W 7 64
I start the program, select tools, clone disk, the selection of the source and destination comes up and I select them, then it goes to 'a reboot is necesary', which I accept, and then I reboots back into Windows... and stays there. The cloning on the command window does not start. Anyone has a solution to this please?
Pablo,
Tuttle is right. Backing and restoring is better than cloning. If you insist on cloning, do it from the recovery CD.
Same thing about restores, do them from the recovery CD.
1. Will backing up create a bootable disk that I can just switch with my C: drive, and just boot up and continue working without having to restore the OS, settings and spend a day with all that work?
2. Why would cloning not work, if it is offered as a tool in Acronis? Why you suggest we work around instead of using a paid for tool instead?
There are many ways to backup, including Window's own: we don't need to buy a specific product like Acronis to do that. The ability to Clone is essential to eliminate downtime when drives die. This is not an acceptable solution (simply to backup). Cloning is the way to insure smooth business continuance and disaster recovery, if it works as promised.
A 'recovery CD' is no solution either: all my OS, settings, registry, programs and data simply do not fit. Cloning is the only solution.
1. It does not take a day to restore your system from a backup. A full disk backup allows you to store many such backups on a single drive, so greater backup security than a single clone. When you restore a full disk backup, everything is restored, so no need for reinstallations or redoing settings.
2. Clone does work. But, due to the nature of Clone, how Windows handles seeing multiple OS drive, how Windows enumerates volumes differently than Linux, and many more reasons, Clone is tricky, and users often make mistakes when cloning that cause them big trouble.
Clone is not essential to eliminate downtime. A full disk Backup is much, much better.
A full disk backup, selecting the disk checkbox rather than individual partitions, includes everything. It includes everything that a clone would include.
The difference is that while a clone immediately writes that information a single time to another drive, a backup is saved as a compressed .tib archive. As such, multiple .tib archives may be saved to a single backup drive, allowing for greater redundancy, security and flexibility.
Once a full disk image .tib archive is restored to a drive, the result is the same as if that drive had been the target of a clone done on the date and time that the backup archive was created.
Clone is riskier because we've seen situations where users mistakenly choose the wrong drive to clone from and to, thus wiping out their system drive.
Don't Clone. Do a full disk Backup.
When your disk dies, it normally includes the OS getting corrupt and either not booting up at all or windows not starting. Your backup is of no help at that point, as one has to reinstall the OS from scratch first. That takes a lot of time even if you have the OS physical CDs, which most systems do not bring anymore. You can't go online to download the OS when your computer won't start. The only quick option there is two swap a cloned drive. Then you are in business in 5 minutes flat. A Backup can't give you that functionality.
There should not have to be a need to justify Acronis. They should make products that work. Cloning should work, and it is their job to fix the bugs, not to come up with excuses or workourounds that don't quite work. Thanks for your help, but a backup is not, as explained above, substitute for a cloned disk.
Your backup is of no help at that point, as one has to reinstall the OS from scratch first.
If you are careful tp make sure that your backups included everything on the disk (all partitions or disk mode), then the backup could be restored to a new blank disk and the result would be an identical bootable system on a new disk of the same size or larger/smaller.. The amount of time needed to restore the system would be about the same amount of time that it needed to create the original backup. No additional restore of programs needed as the system will be identical to what it was when the backup was created.
Aconis provides two methods to create a new bootable replacement disk.
1. Via the clone method.
2. Via the backup and restore method.
Method 1 or method 2 of the next link shows how.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/29618
The next link illustrates how to create the type of backup needed when backup created from within Windows.
The bootable CD can also be used to create the full disk image backup. (disk option checked as to what is to be included within the backup.)
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705
The advantage of the cloning method is that it is slightly faster. The disadvantage is it is much less safe subject to user error or hardware malfunction which can render both disks useless.
The advantage of the backup and restore method is that is much safer (accident prevention--user or hdwe) and it is more versatile.
Thank you. Option 1 is the one I prefer, a clone, but is not working.
Option 2 is 20 steps plus some sub-steps on each screenshot....
Maybe Acrnois engineers can work a little harder, so we don't have to? (We pay for it buying your products).
I don't think this is a good solution.
Thanks anyway.
When your disk dies, it normally includes the OS getting corrupt and either not booting up at all or windows not starting. Your backup is of no help at that point, as one has to reinstall the OS from scratch first.
I think you misunderstand how an ATIH backup works. In fact, the situation you describe is precisely when ATIH can help you the most, and reinstallation of the OS is not required.
Make full disk backups periodically. If your disk dies here's what you do:
1. Remove the dead disk and replace it with a fresh disk. You don't even need to format it.
2. Boot from the ATIH Recovery Media (either CD-R or USB).
3. Perform a full disk Restore, restoring the most recent full disk backup from before the drive failed.
4. Once a full disk image backup is restored to the new drive, your system will be exactly as it was at the date and time that the backup archive was created. Everything is restored, so no need for reinstallations or redoing settings.
I have gone through that exact scenario several times on many computers. The drive dies. A new drive is either bought or received from the computer manufacturer under warranty. I remove the dead drive and insert the new one. I restore the most recent backup. I boot from the drive and "presto", everything appears exactly as it did at the time the last backup was made.
I'm giving my best advice when I recommend that you perform ull disk Backup instead of Clone. The only benefit of Clone is that you don't have to perform the Restore step. In every other respect, from having greater security due to being able to store many backups, to avoiding potential problems of misidentifying drives when Cloning, Backup is better than Clone.
I'm not saying that Clone doesn't work, because it does. But Backup is simpler, safer and less likely to end in disaster due to user error.
I start the program, select tools, clone disk, the selection of the source and destination comes up and I select them, then it goes to 'a reboot is necesary', which I accept, and then I reboots back into Windows... and stays there. The cloning on the command window does not start. Anyone has a solution to this please?
Your posting appears to indicate the cloning is being attempted from within WINDOWS. For many, the preferred method when performing a clone is to boot from the TI bootable media recovery CD and perform the clone from the CD. This method removes Windows from the picture.
Well, I use Windows on my PC like 90% of the world... What is the " TI bootable media recovery CD" and how can I get one please?
The bootable recovery media (either CD-R or USB flash drive) can be created in two ways:
- Using the Bootable Media Builder.
or,
- Login to your Acronis account (or create one, using your serial number) at Acronis.com, and download the ISO. You can then use Windows 7 to burn the ISO to CD-R.
Check out the many user guides and tutorials in the left column of this forum, particularly ATIH 2012 - Getting Started and Grover's True Image Guides which are illustrated with step-by-step screenshots.