Unable to boot from Windows 8 restore
Hi,
I am trying to copy my windows 8 image from one SSD drive (128Gb) to another larger SSD (256Gb).
I backed up the original drive. (Tried both partition and drive modes).
There are 5 primary partitions shown on the original drive. image attached.
I physically replaced the SSD.
After finding out how to set the bios on my Samsung series 9 to allow the USB recovery drive to operate correctly, I then initialised the new drive, and restored every partition to it. I manualy increased the partition size of the C drive to take advantage of the extra space on the new drive.
I rest the bios back to smart boot, and the new drive fails to boot with a windows error 00225.
I then tried restoring all the partitions first, then the MBR as suggested in the manual.
Same result.
I would appreciate any suggestions how to get this working correctly.
Thanks - Eduardo
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Hi,
I did reset the BIOS to UEFI mode after the restore. If you do not do that, the new disk will not boot at all, so I do no think that is the issue. Windows is attempting to boot up on the new disk, but fails with an error 00225, file missing.
On my first attempt I did just tick disk 2 and restored everything. When that did not work, I read the Acronis manual a little better (:-) and then restored all the partitions first minus the MBR, then did a seperate restore of the MBR after the partitions restored, but it made no difference.
I noticed that the manual states the MBR can only hold 4 primary partitions, yet my system has 5. Or is that an outdated limitation with windows 8? Just wondering if that is an issue?
Cheers - E
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MBR can only store four primary partitions, but one of those partitions can be listed as an extended partition which can then hold a number of logical partitions.
Can you explain a little more about what happens when you boot, at what point does this error message pop up, is it part of a BSOD?
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If this is a newer system that came preinstalled with Windows8, you most likely have a GPT disk. On a GPT disk, partitions are primary partitions.
Since you have 5 primary partitions, you have most likely a GPT disk and the MBR+Track0 option is non-operative.
It seems your backup or your restore is not complete.
When you restore the complete disk, do you see the same error?
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Yes, this is a very recent notebook with Windows 8 preinstalled. I do not know what a GPT disk is. Can True Image 2013 handle it?
If I restore the entire disk, or individual partitions, I get the same error.
There does not seem to be any difference in the procedure to resotore the entire disk or individual partitions other than at the time of backing up where they are seperate options.
When I come to restore either the partition back up or the entire disk backup, True image makes me step through each partition and specify the new destination location for it with the option of setting the type and size as part of the restore process.
Another clue perhaps is that True image will not allow me to allocate the last two partitions unless I initially set the third partiton as logical, set up the last two as logical, then go back and set them all to be primary. I guess this is due to MBR installations only having 4 primary partitions?
Do you think me extending the size of the C drive partition during the restore may be screwing things up?
The windows 8 error screen is attached. It almost feels like the wrong partiton is active? I am not setting the active partition, True image is defaulting the first partition to be active, which I have been accepting.
Thanks for any help.
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I agree with Pat L, you probably have a GPT disk.
Open Windows Disk Management on the working drive and take a look at the order the partitions are in as well as which is marked as the active partition. Post a screen capture here as well.
When doing the restore, use the Acronis tool "Add a new disk" and initialize the disk as GPT, without creating any partitions.
Restore the disk partition by partition "as is" for your first attempt to eliminate the possibility that changing the size of "C" may be causing any issues. Be sure to mark the correct partition active. Acronis will mark the first partition restored as active by default, and that is okay. When you restore the partition that "should" be marked as active, mark it as the active partition, and the first partition will no longer be the active partition.
Since this is most likely a GPT disk, the MBR/track 0 and Disk Signature restores are not necessary or recommended.
If you can boot correctly after trying this, you could then repeat the procedure increasing the C" drive size to take up more of the target drive space, but be sure to leave enough room for the remaining partitions.
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Yes, it is a GPT disk, I just read it inside the Samsung recovery software.
Attached is the Disk manager screen.
I will try initialising the new drive as you suggest with GPT, and try that.
Thanks for the suggestions.
E
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Notice in your first screen capture of the Acronis backup partition selections screen, that the partition order is different than in your Windows Disk Management screen. The partitions can be backed up as a set or individually, but need to be restored in the correct order.
In Acronis it was listed as:
95GB, 500MB, 300MB, 20GB, 1GB
In Windows Disk Management the partition order is different:
500MB, 300MB, 95GB, 20GB, 1GB
Be sure to restore the partitions in the same order as shown in Windows Disk Management, and make sure to set the active partition to the one shown in Windows Disk Management as well. I can't tell from the image which one it is.
If Acronis restored the partitions in the order listed in your first screen capture, the boot issue you are receiving would have been caused by this.
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Be sure NOT to change the size of any other partitions on your drive except the OS partition.
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I came across the same error on an HP Envy (Win 8) with that same UEFI bios thing when I used True Image to backup then restore.
What I had to do is make the Recovery Drive on a spare portable drive (I used a 120Gb) from the working win 8 drive. I booted with the Recovery Drive and it took maybe 3 or 4 attempts using different options to get the restored drive to boot finally.
Sorry I don't remember the exact steps that finally worked from the booted Recovery Drive.
You may also want to try another way to backup and restore. (But this way didn't work for me - I don't know why). From the working system open the Control Panel and look for the item Windows 7 File Recovery (yes it is still called windows 7). Click that and in the window that comes up look to the upper left and you will see two items. One is to make a backup image and the other is to make a Rescue Disk (you can do this on a flash drive or optical). You use the Rescue Disk (bootable) to restore the Image. As I said, I couldn't get this method to work for me ... but Windows 8 is pretty new to me.
Btw, the original drive was 500Gb and I restored to a 160Gb.
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I finally managed to get it working thanks to all your help.
For the record, anyone else following this path for replacing a GPT disk with Windows 8...
Using True Image:-
* Back up the entire original drive.
* Create a USB bootable recovery disk, can be same disk as the back up.
* Switch off PC
* Install new drive
* Reboot the PC.
* Enter the BIOS.
* Disable Fast BIOS (Advanced section)
* Make the USB HDD the first bootable device in the Boot Device Priority (Boot Section)
* Disable Smart Boot (Boot Section)
* Set the OS Mode Selection to CSM OSI (Boot Section)
* Reboot PC with recovery drive plugged into USB port.
True Image will start up.
* Choose Add New Drive under Tools and Utilties Section
* Set new drive to be GPT
* Choose Restore Backup
* Browse the to the back up image taken in step 1
* Choose restore entire disk or selected partitons.
* Select the entire drive from the back up to be restored.
* If the size of the main Windows OS partition needs to be altered, do it at this stage, or just accept the values Ture Image suggests.
* Complete the restore.
* Reboot pc, and re enter the BIOS. Re-enable Fast BIOS, and SmartBoot.
* Enjoy your new drive. :-)
It took me about 8 goes to get the final formula, as there seems to be no documented procedure available to do this.
Perhaps an entry in the FAQ or general documentation is due to cover GPT disks, since I am sure they will become more common with the spread of Windows 8 devices?
Thanks - E
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