ATIH 11 demands larger drive than necessary???

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Trying to down size to a smaller HDD for my Dell inspiron 11Z. The source drive is 320GB with 3 partitions.
Partition 1 = Dell Diagnostics - 39 MB
Partition 2 = Dell Recovery - 14.65 GB - 8.41 free - per Disk Manger
Partition 3 = C:\ - 283.40 GB - 236.53 GB free per DMngr BUT only 210.7 GB free per the ATIH Restore Data Wizard?

I do not need the diagnostics for the BU HD so I created an ATIH 11 Full Disk BU of partition 2 and 3. I also instructed ATIH to exclude the Pagefile.sys and Hiberfil.sys files from the source drive - a total of 6.8 GB.

Trying to restore to a 60GB HD w 55.8 GB actual space
Again according to DMngr the Recovery partition has 6.41 space so when I asked for the restore I reduced the partition size to 6.5 GB.

Then in the same restore session I asked for another partition, the C:\ partition. It will not allow me to select the remaining unallocated space on the 60 GB target drive, apparently because it believes there is 72.7 left to restore.

The strange thing is in dispair I restored to a larger drive and after the restore the C:\ drive only shows 37.1 GB. Any idea how to get ATIH to let me restore onto the smaller drive, on which there is clearly room for a restore???

Ven, 11/21/2014 - 19:13
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You do not indicate which version of Windows?

You indicate you have ATIH11. Is this the more recenot verson ATIH 2011 or do you mean the really old version 11? If it really is the old 11, then it does not support Win7 or Win 8.

You need to find out more about your computer. Perhaps you have some GPT style partitions which cannot be seen in Windows Disk Management.
Suggest you use Windows Diskpart and clarify whether you have MBR or GPT sytle partitioning.

show-gpt-diskpart1.jpg

If your computer has MBR type disks, you can use my signature link 3, item 1 iniside that link which will enable you to restore each partition singly as a separate restore.

Best to only change partition size on the larger C and leave the other partition sizes "as is". If you change those sizes (other than C), those partition may not function correctly when needed.

To see GPT disk indicaters (incomplete) from inside Windows Disk Management
Click the Menu item "View"
Click option "TOP"
Click option "DISK LIST"
Check the column listing "Partition Style" for a specific listing of GPT or MBR style partitioning.
If GPT, some partitions not displayed in Windows Disk Management but can be seen if Windows DISKPART is used from the command line.

Sab, 11/22/2014 - 02:52
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Hi,
Thanks for the detailed reply.
The box says Acronis True Image 11 Home. Which version is that? I have used it successfully to back up and restore my Win 7 machines using a second Win 7 box to do the BUs and restores.
Pretty sure i have MBR partitions. None of my drives have the marker for GPT.

I did not go through your link 3 item 1 as it referred to restoring from a TI bootable media CD. I am restoring using a computer (work computer) other than the computer (target computer) to be restored. Wasn't sure if that makes much difference. Let me know if it is more or less the same or if for some reason i would do better to restore on the target computer.

In order to work around the original problem i repartitioned the target HDD and that enabled me to get the restore done, but now I have a couple new questions on a new restore attempt:

The original WIN 7 disk for an HP PAvilion S5750 had the following structure:
System Partition - 100 MB Capacity - 39 MB Used
OS Partition - 1383.95 GB Capacity - 127.69 GB Used
Recovery Partition - 13.21 GB Capacity - 11.58 GB MB Used

You say:
"Best to only change partition size on the larger C and leave the other partition sizes "as is". If you change those sizes (other than C), those partition may not function correctly when needed."

I did resize all the partitions before completing the prior restore so now I am concerned I may have problems.
If my understanding is correct the system partition is only used to boot the OS.

If the restored disk boots can I believe that partition will continue to be ok or might I have problems later?

The Recovery Partition is giving me some headaches. I was thinking that once i got it in place I would try a restore from that just to test that it is fully functional. If that works once can I also figure that it is ok even though i changed that partition size or could that be a problem later as well?

Lastly, I first got a working restoration of the drive, I had replaced the original drive with the restored drive and it worked fine. The only problem was that I had purchased a refurbished drive from a local microcenter that was marked as 160 GB. During the restoration it was giving strange options for the available size, but I limited the OS partition to 125 GB to allow for the Recovery partition 12GB. Turns out M-cntr had mis-marked the drive and it was actually a 300 GB drive. So now I am trying to restore onto it again and make full use of the available space for the C:\OS partition. ATIH did the first 2 partitions in a reasonable amount of time.

But when it got to the Recovery partition, which holds only 11.58 GB of data, it got to 28% and seemed to hang. It said it would take 2 hours to complete even though it had taken less than that to restore the >120 GB. Then after an hour it had changed to 3 hrs and had not moved past the 28% mark. The CPU time in Task Manager processes was not moving so i figured it had hung up and cancelled it. It appears to have completed the System and OS partitions OK as they show up in Disk Management on the work computer as expected. I have not tested them in the target machine yet. The last partition shows unallocated.

I tried to run ATIH again and just add the Recovery partition but it took quite long to just get to the 1% mark and after another hour had only gotten to 4% and said it would take another 7 hrs. Once again I cancelled.
Any idea what might cause this or why it would take so much longer to restore the last 12 GB partition than the 125 GB partition.

Thanks again for your assistance.
ed

Lun, 11/24/2014 - 22:56
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Boot from the TI Recovery CD and restore the 13.21 GB Recovery Partition to its full 13.21 size.
Ignore the time estimate and let it run. It is an inaccurate estimate.

The 100mb partition is peanuts in size. You are not gaining any usable space by trying to make the 100 megabyte partition smaller.

When restoring to a new disk, best results obtain when performing the restore when booted from the TI Recovery CD.

Mar, 11/25/2014 - 01:08
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Tried that. Been running for an hour and 20 minutes. No indication of % complete other than the bar graph which shows about 20% and the time remaining = 5 hours. Can't check the Task Manager since it booted from the Recovery CD. When do i give up?
Any idea what might be causing the delay?

Mar, 11/25/2014 - 22:18