Need copy of 2 files from a backup

Here's a link
http://kb.acronis.com/content/18322

or, some more here

Using Windows Explorer and browse to the backup file in question.
Right click and the *.tib backup file and choose the Explore option.
Now you are working with the backup file. Within the explorer windows, browse to the file inside the backup.
Once you find the file, you can right click and choose the copy or open and copy the file from the backup onto a new folder.

If you still need more help, get back to us after you try the above.

Grover--many thanks for your reply. I must admit the reason I have not been back to this before now is because I never received an email about your answer. Tonight I remembered that our forum does not email the thread poster. Since I use Windows 7 and Acronis TI Home 2010 Build 7160 will your reply apply to my version? If it does, this is an answer that I believe I can use.(after reading further, I see that emails are sent to the poster). Perhaps your reply went into my junk folder and I failed to see it.
Today I attempted a backup of my computer after I had formatted the 250GB emternal HDD, Acronis took 2 hours and 23 minutes to creat a Partition Image for whatever reason I may never know. I am inclined to believe Home 10 is not compatible with Windows 7.

ATI 2010 does support Win 7

This could be an USB speed issue. If you are using a USB hub, try it direct connect If you are already using it direct, then try a different cable or connector (on desktop, use a rear connector).

Were you able to get your two files from you backup as per your original post?

Thank you Pat for your comforting answer. I can't very well afford a new ATI version just now.

EDIT: I do have to wonder if 2010 has some or most of the features of 2011. In using Grover's answer to my thread, I am wondering if 2010 can be used just as 2011 as shown in Grover's links' info. In other words, the link given in Grover's answer refers to 2011 only--no mention of 2010. (I haven't a way of testing that!!)

Grover, with your excellent directions, I feel sure I am will be able to do as you direct--IF ATI 2010 will allow me to do it. I now have a more pressing problem and have put that problem on the back burner.

I do not use a USB hub but I will try your suggestion. The last time I did a backup to another external HDD, I used the same USB cable and the same USB port; all without a problem. I will try what you suggest and get back with an answer. I have to say that my age may have a bit to do with my thorough understand of the use of ATI as I always seem to have a problem using ATI for whatever purpose. I have always had difficulty understanding why I should boot with my ATI CD or just use windows. The screens of both seems to offer different avenues to use. I really hope I have described the correct way that I do backups; etc.

Bu yo,

If you don't use the more advanced features like Non-Stop Backup or Try&Decide, and if your ATI 2010 recovery CD works well on your computer, you can safely stay with the 2010 version.

You can safely backup from Windows or from the CD. It is a matter of user preference. For restoring, however, it is recommended to restore a disk and partition backup from the CD, in particular if you change your disk.

Thanks again Pat. No, I do not use ATI for anything but backup purposes. I try to use the CD but it seems to be more confusing than using Windows. I have read pros and cons about using the two methods.
What do you mean in your last sentence comment: in particular if you change your disk

If you change your disk, your disk size might be different. It is preferable to restore from the CD in this case as this will allow you to resize your partitions in the way you need: do not change the size of any hidden partition, or recovery partition, adjust the size of the user partitions to take advantage of the additional space on the disk, etc.

OK but every time I attempt to run a full backup, the first item of business is the app wants to run the partition tool. Why??
Nothing has changed to my knowledge other than my data; etc. I do not recall ever having this happen before. I am now using a different USB port and still I get this junk. I am almost ready to give up on using Acronis entirely. I have used it for years; since version 6 some 6+ years ago. Perhaps this is being caused by windows 7 but still I have been using ATI and Windows 7 Home Premium for a year now and still do not recall such behavior.

Grover, I have just tried your suggestion of using a new cable and using a different USB port and I get no where in my try to have ATI to perform a full backup of my installed hard drive. Any more ideas? Perhaps I need deep tutorial help with ATI; like step 1, step 2 etc. Thank you for your continued support.

EDIT: Pat has tried to help by offering additional suggestions but so far, nothing is working. I am using Win 7 Home Premium and ATI Home 2010.

Bu Yo,

I have created a tutorial showing how to create a full backup of the your system disk using TrueImage Home Version 2010.

http://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/forum/2009/11/5940/2010-ti…

I am indebted to you for your time, efforts and sharing of your knowledge. Now I will see what you have for me.

WOW WOW WOW Now I feel as though I have just crammed for a final exam. This is a great tutorial and one that we ALL can and will probably use. I should be able to follow your steps and get the desired backup for those times WHEN it will be needed. Hopefully even I can follow your directions. Many thanks again.

Your welcome. We were all beginners once upon a time and still today for many of the new features.

FWIW, Newegg shell shocker for today
Today only 1PM-3:59PM Pacific Time. Acronis True Image 2011 only $40 for
3 PCS. Just in case you are interested in this bargain.
This is the Shell Shocker Deal of the day from Newegg.

Grover, re. post #10. I still get the partitioning tool when trying to make a backup and about 2 hours later, a backup(?) begins. Why is this happening or better still, how can I avoid it. I am using a 1T Seagate HD in an enclosure. In the alternate, can the backup(?) being produced be validated, mounted and files looked at and then
un-mounted? I always see the wording that the backup is corrupted when I check it. I am using version Home 2010 Build 8101. I have had 8 attempts at a backup and each of them is reported as corrupted so I deleted them, formatted the 1T HDD and started over again but only to get a corrupted backup. A sobering thought, are/were those, now deleted, corrupted backups truly valid backup results?? I don't recall ever having such difficulty creating a backup to use if and when one is needed!! I am going to attempt making another backup but I fully expect the same results.

Bu Yo,

First, you need to clarify several statements.

1. Build 8101 is NOT part of version 2010. Build 8101 is part of Version 11 and that version is NOT compatible with Windows 7 when installed in Windows. To find out the version/build information, open the program and look under the help/about section. If you are actually using the outdated version 11, build 8101, I would suggest you update to the current version TIH 2011, build 6857. You will need to uninstall the old version before attempting to install the 2011 version.

So, if you are using Win 7 and using version 11 (designed several years ago before Win7), it is not surprising you are having issues.

2. I have no clue on what you mean when you state "I still get the partitioning tool when trying to do a backup." Can you explain or post a screen capture.

3. Have you tried creating a backup when booted from the Rescue CD?

4. When you say all your backups are corrupt. How were these created (within Windows or from CD) and have you tried to validate these backups when booted from the Rescue CD?

5. If you are new to TrueImage Home, the user manual can be helpful. Once you confirm the version being discussed, there may be some guides available for that particular version.

Grover, I realized I had made a mistake in stating the build number when I was in the middle of trying for another backup. I was looking at some notes I had written when I copied that build. The true build is 7160. Earlier this week I was working on an old XP machine with ATI version 11 installed in it. That version was successful in making an image backup. I 'think' I have always used ATI while in windows. I cannot adamantly say that I have used the original ATI CD or the burned copy of ATI (Rescue CD?) to create a backup. I will try using the CD next and report back. As to what I see when making the backu and specifically seeing the words 'Create Partition Image' and then beginning a back AFTER the partitions--usually 3 or I have seen and as many as 5. What is being partitioned? My external 1T Seagate hard drive? I have never understood that language and maybe 2+ hours later the backup is complete. I then validate, taking another hour, and when OK appears, I then open the backup and look at some of the saved files. I see the iconic symbol indicating Internet Explorer as the saved backup . All this is wried to me and I don't believe everything is kosher. I can't believe that I have something missing in my ATI Home 2010 I purchased, I believe from Newegg or Best Buy. The partitioning automatically takes place after I have entered all of the info the app asks for. More than you can possibly know; I genuinely appreciate your continued help.

Be sure and use the CD associated with build 7160. Make a new Rescue CD if needed.

Follow along the guide I made for you.

As for what you see.

a. When selecting the partitions to be included in your backup, it will show all partitions that are available on your computer and that will include more than just your system disk. If you want a backup of your system disk, then checkmark the disk option as shown in the guide. A backup which has the total contents of the disk is the best backup to have as you can do the most with it when a disk replacement is needed.

b. When selecting the target disk, you may see a variety of choices but this can be deceiving. You usually only have the one target disk so you want to be sure and choose the correct target disk--usually based on size or physical location.

Should you want or need to restore a backup--especially of your system disk or system partition, this restore is best done when booted from the TI Rescue CD--not from within Windows.

The download from your Acronis registration page will have everything that is included in the program--which is only one file.

Can you do a screen capture of the partitioning item that you are seeing? Is this pictured in my 2010 guide from me?

Your system disk is divided into several partitions. When you create a backup of your disk, the backup will be internally divided into the same number of pieces are is your number of partitions--but all will appear as one large file. Having each backup available individually enables you to restore only one partition--should that be a need.

At this point, I am not sure we are both talking about the same or not....

Be sure and use the CD associated with build 7160. Make a new Rescue CD if needed.

Your first line in your new reply may be just my needed answer. I have never made a rescue CD with the 7160 build!!
It is a bit too late tonight but rest assured I will make one tomorrow and then try to boot with it and report back. (Your vitar just about describes some of what I now feel LOL)

Grover I am sorry to say that I have wasted today trying to correctly backup my HDD. I printed your tutorial and believe I followed it to a "T" but I still came up without the hoped for and desired results. The 'creating partitions image' was evident in each of the 2 or 3 attempted backups, validations, mount images, un- mount images; etc. I made a new disk of Home 2010 with the build 7160 and used it to make the backups. Doesn't look as though it succeeded. It has been a long dull day and without any good results. Because I can see the files that were saved in the backups does not mean that I can restore my computer should the need call for it--or does it!! Two shots I made are attached as part of my work for today. I truly hope they will be of help to you while helping me.

Forgot to say that each of the 'creating partitions image' ran each time I tried for a backup and each time it took 1 to 2 hours to run.

BuYo, So far, what I have seen looks promising. Your attachments did not indicate errors but one task you cancelled. Why?

I need to see some of your information.

1. In my guide on figure 2, simulate doing a backup from within Windows and when you get to the screen like figure 2, take a screen capture of it for me.

2. Locate the log files (they will be in a logs folder) and upload the last 3 or 4 of these files from your backups of the 21 and 22nd plus any others which you think failed. I want to see the content of these log files. There is no personal information inside these files which open in notepad. You should be able to upload these log files or you may have to rename the extension from log to txt--I am not sure.

3. When you created the most recent backup files from the CD, did you checkmark the validate option so the backup included validation?  This would have been as shown on figure 8 of the guide. If yes, your calendar picture does not show a failure.

4. When the backup completed, did you get a message saying the backup had finished and did the message include any error messages?

5. You keep mentioning "creating partition image" as an error. Where are you seeing this? Are you getting this from the log file? Note the picture below.

The message in red is a normal part of creating a backup file. The program is taking an image (picture) of your data and this log file describes the process in this manner. If you are referring to something like this, this is normal and not an error.

Click image for larger view.

BuYo, So far, what I have seen looks promising. Your attachments did not indicate errors but one task you cancelled. Why?
MY ANSWER: I DID NOT WANT TO DO NOTHING WHILE WAITING FOR AN HOUR+ FOR THE "CREATING PARTITIONS IMAGE" TO RUN AGAIN. GUESS I HAD SEEN IT TOO MANY TIMES AND GUESS I WAS PERHAPS TIRED AND NOT SEEING GOOD RESULTS(IN MY UNKNOWING EYES)
GROVER I HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE SHOWING MORE 'STICK ABILITY" THAN ANY MOD I HAVE EVER HAD!!!
AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
I need to see some of your information.

1. In my guide on figure 2, simulate doing a backup from within Windows and when you get to the screen like figure 2, take a screen capture of it for me.

Forgot the two attachments:

2. Locate the log files (they will be in a logs folder) and upload the last 3 or 4 of these files from your backups of the 21 and 22nd plus any others which you think failed. I want to see the content of these log files. There is no personal information inside these files which open in notepad. You should be able to upload these log files or you may have to rename the extension from log to txt--I am not sure.
MY ANSWER: HOPEFULLY I HAVE GIVEN THE INFO YOU CALLED FOR AS SHOWN IN THE 2 ATTACHMENTS FOR JUNE 21 AND jUNE 22

3. When you created the most recent backup files from the CD, did you checkmark the validate option so the backup included validation? This would have been as shown on figure 8 of the guide. If yes, your calendar picture does not show a failure.
MY ANSWER: YES, I THINK I DID, AT LEAST EACH OF TWO BACKUPS SHOW THEM TO BE VALIDATED.

4. When the backup completed, did you get a message saying the backup had finished and did the message include any error messages?
MY ANSWER: WORDS SUCH AS FINISHED WITHOUT ERRORS OR SIMILAR WORDS APPEARED.

5. You keep mentioning "creating partition image" as an error. Where are you seeing this? Are you getting this from the log file? Note the picture below.
MY ANSWER: I MUST HAVE BEEN THINKING MY EXTERNAL HDD WAS BEING PARTITIONED AND I WONDERED WHY. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT, APPARENTLY THE BACKUP WAS BEING DONE. YOUR FIGURE 6 ON PAGE 7 SHOWS THE WINDOW FOR THIS ITEM.
The message in red is a normal part of creating a backup file. The program is taking an image (picture) of your data and this log file describes the process in this manner. If you are referring to something like this, this is normal and not an error.

Perhaps I have never truly seen or had a complete backup at any time I used this version of ATI. I would not truly know since I have been fortunate not to need to restore any of the 2010 backups--very fortunate. I don't know what would have happened should I have needed one but I suppose a backup would have failed.

None of the above caps are intended as shouting; only to hilite my answers. if more is needed, please advise

1. The screen attachment requested above is still important to see. Please attach.
"In my guide on figure 2, simulate doing a backup from within Windows and when you get to the screen like figure 2, take a screen capture of it for me." It will tell me a lot about how your system disk is partitioned but I may still need to also see a screen capture of your Windows Disk Management graphical view--which also shows all your partitions and their sequence.

2. The 6-21 attachment shows the validation successful of the backup which you call C & D on June 21. Should you need to restore either your drive C or your drive D overtop your existing data, you should be successful. If your hard drive failed and you needed to restore this backup onto a new replacement disk, it is NOT known at this time whether the new disk would be bootable because we do not know what partitions you did NOT include in your backup.

3. The 6-22 attachment shows that a backup of your system partition (drive C) (System_C_6-22-11.tib) was successfully completed. The log file ends on line 14. Validation was not selected as part of the backup or is not included in the data you have attached. You should recheck the log file to confirm whether a validation was included.

If the validation occurred, then it is highly probable that you could restore your backup overtop your existing Drive C such as in the case of a virus. As none of the other partitions were included in the backup, nothing else could be restored from this backup and the missing parts could prevent you from restoring your system onto a replacement disk.

4. Naming backups: Your backup folder shows a backup which appears to be named
ATI Home 2010 Build 7160 6-22-11 full backup to ext.hdd.tib

a. First, it is never wise to include a period as part of the backup name. The only acceptable period is one placed there by the program immediately prior to the extension which is .tib

b. The backup name is much too long and it is best to use underscores or dashes rather than spaces. Such as MyC_D-June21__.tib or HerC_D-June20__.tib or MySystem_C_only__.tib

c. I always end my backup name with a couple of underscores as the program may add numbers itself and the underscore provides a separator.
The file date is always part of the file and is a duplication--but that is up to you.
When looking at your backup files inside Windows Explorer, if you use the "Detail" view (top menu under View), you may like the detail view better for the information it shows such as date.

5. I would suggest that for each backup task, you assign a different folder for each task. Your backups do NOT have to go to the My Backups Folder but it is ok if they do but I would at least use added sub-folder to keep the backups from each tasks in their own folders.

6. If you have not looked inside your Logs folder for the TrueImage program, do a search and look at the listing of logs. Please attach a couple more logs such as for the one with the long file name mentioned in item #4. Note: the upload does not have to be a picture. The upload will accept your log file--as is. Instead of browsing to a picture, browse to the log folder and select the log file for uploading.

7. Note I am not a forum moderator or associated with Acronis--just another volunteer hoping to help you understand the need for backups and the perform such backups. Of course, doing the backup is only half the process. Until you actually restore your backups onto a test disk or for live, you never really know whether you have a workable recovery procedure or not. Unfortunately, there have been far too many user that did NOT do any test restores and when the time came where their backups were really needed (such as a virus or hard drive failure), they had issues--such as corruption or the backups did not include everything they needed, etc. Testing your restore process is a very important part of making sure your backups will do what you intend them to do. Personally, all my backups are where I check mark the disk so that all partitions are included in the backup. The first backup is a full backup and then next few backups are differential backups and then another full backup starts a new chain. Each person has their own needs so frequency of backup is an individual matter based on how often the data changes or is updated. There is no one single backup procedure.

8. Once you upload the requested attachments, that should provide the information we need to confirm whether you backups are successful. Practice can go a long way in becoming an experienced user. I continue to learn by reading the posts and the questions and solutions offered and others can too. The forum knowledge base has an extensive listing of answers to questions already asked. If you have not done so, look at some of the listings inside my signature below and along the left margin of this web page under "UseFul Links". Nothing more is being added for the 2010 version such as guides or illustrations but much exists already. The Acronis support webpages have been completely redesigned and much easier to use and find information. The Knowledge base listed at the top of this page is also easily searched for a variety of information.

9. I look forward to seeing your attachments.

I have come to the conclusion that ATI has gotten too technical for me to understand. I am not a dummy but I may have reached the end of my patience with trying to knowingly produce a true backup that I can count on. (my advancing age does not help).I may just step back for a few days, hope I don't have a HD failure; etc that would cause me to loose the contents of my drive and maybe renew my efforts to understand ATI after a break. Life with ATI just shouldn't be this hard to comprehend. Is there a way of trying one of my backups short of risking my present computer?
Grover I feel as though I have literally wasted your time in this matter and taken you away from those who may have promise of correcting their ATI problems. I very definitely appreciate all of your efforts and time.
BTW, I have been trying most of the day to produce those results your tutorial gives. I have tried the 7160 build CD I made, I have tried in Windows and also the factory CD. Neither produced the desired results. For example, I could not create figure 2 on page 3.

I won't get a chance to respond until Saturday or Sunday. So far, I am not finding the errors you describe so be encouraged. The sample below is one of the screen captures I was hoping to get. This is a simple capture of the backup screen before you select what is to be backed up.

Hopefully, you can also attach the log file from your full backup. This has important information about your backup so we could make a best guess as to what you have, etc.

Take your time. There is no hurry. One starter method to test your backup would be to restore a couple files from the backup onto your computer.

click to enlarge image. Example is a Compaq laptop with Win7.

More tomorrow, I hope. I tried and tried to create that window result today but I could never get the "Disk 2" to show. I got the exact results you show for Disk 1; verbatim at least I think I did.
I regard you as the teacher and I as the student so IF the teacher says for me to remain optimistic-then I will. Til Saturday or Sunday then or whenever you are available. I'll also try to restore a couple of simple files as a test. Enjoy your weekend.

1. RE: sample picture in post #26 and guide.
One screen capture that I am requesting is to start the TrueImage program as if you were going to do a backup. When you get to the screen "Partition to Back UP", take a screen capture just as it appears on your screen so that the capture shows all your partitions. Whether disk 2 is shown does not matter for our purposes as we know that your external works because you have backups to prove it. Just show me what you see on this screen. You will not be able to do a screen capture from the CD so it must be done from within Windows.

2. In your posting #23, you included two attachments. Can you give me a similar screen capture of the June 22 full backup log file which backup you named
ATI Home 2010 Build 7160 6-22-11 full backup to ext.hdd.tib
The log file will show which partitions were included within the backup and whether validations were performed.

3. FYI--In general:
a. If your Acronis 2010 backup calendar remains green on the backup dates, that implies to no errors but the green does not show what function occurred so you need to look at the log files when you want specific information about what how the backup was configured.

b. TrueImage does not require that backups placed in separate folders. However, My experience has been that using separate folders for each task causes less confusion both to the user and the program so it is something I recommend and practice myself.

c. Attached is is how I have my folder set to view my log file or my backup file. This is the details view.

4. When you do your test restore of a couple files, use the full backup of 6-22 (listed in item 2) for your testing.

Click image to enlarge viewing.

As it turned out today, I was out of town and just returned this evening; tired traveling for seven hours with a one hour break on the 'other end' before returning home. Thank you for your post and tomorrow I hope to be able to supply you with good material. I am not too sure of how to retrieve a couple of files but I'll surely try and take them from my June 22 backup. BTW, I love your idea of creating and putting backup into their own folder. I am always confused as to which tib to open for whatever purpose

Back again and I think I have the two screens you requested. Should you need more, just let me know.
I haven't gotten around to trying to retrieve and copy a couple of files from the 6-22 backup--but I will.

First, I would like to congratulate you on the nice screen captures. They are neat and to the point. What is not relevant is not displayed.

1. The first attachment is the same as before. The log file I am requesting is the one listed in the middle top row of the link below.

http://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/forum/2011/06/21791/are_th…

The description shows this to be a full backup which I would interpret to mean as the disk option was checked and all partitions were included in the backup. This is what I am attempting to verify whether such a disk option backup does exist by looking at the contents of the log file. The log file you have attached is not a full backup of all partitions.

2. The second attachment is exactly what I asked for. I am surprised at one partition is labeled (new volume). I do not know what this is--maybe HPTools or vendor partitons--I am not sure.

I do suggest that you rename the partition now named as Compaq. My suggestion for a new name would be "Windows7_C" as this really is your main System which has Windows installed upon it. The viewer would really have to know that the name Compaq identifies your system which is why I am suggesting it be renamed.

3. I would suggest that you look at the physical arrangement of your partitions as shown in Windows Disk Management. Your partition arrangement will look somewhat similar to what is shown for the Compaq listing in this link.

You may want to take a screen capture and retain for your own future reference. If you ever needed to restore to a new or larger disk, it would be important to know the sequence of how these 4 partition are listed. I am reasonably sure the sequence you will see will differ from the sequence shown in your 2nd attachment of the TI backup listing.

http://forum.acronis.com/sites/default/files/forum/2011/05/21542/manufa…

One way to access Windows disk management is to Right Click on your MyComputer icon and click on "Manage" and then click on "disk Management".

Thank you for your compliment. Right now I am struggeling with your request for the 6-22-11 backup and changing the name and getting for you the log for it. I am working in Windows ATI with my external HD open but am not meeting with success for getting your request for the log.

Disk Management shows a "new volum" about 27MG. This was accidentially created some time ago and there is absolutely nothing in it. I guess I should 'fold' it into the C drive but I don't need the additional gigs and do not know how to do that. Just never bothered with it.
Is this attachment helpful?

I have had this on my desktop since ???? Is it of any value to you while you are still helping me?

Let me digest what you have sent. I will respond most likely Monday night.
It is not necessary to spend any more time on screen captures. You have fulfilled my requests.

As easy way to change the Compaq name is to go back into Windows Disk Management and get to the same view as you captured.
Place your mouse pointer into the Compaq partition graphical view and right click on the Compaq partition.
Click on the Properties tab and a window should open where you can change the name from Compaq to Windows7_C

Your screen capture of the Disk Management is wierd. The top part shows two "new volumes" (G & H) but the bottom graphical view only shows one new volume. Is it just missing from the capture? The picture in post #31 (upper right corner of picture) shows how to make all the columns appear equal in display size. The picture "what to backup u" only showed the one "new volume">

Do you have spare space on your external for a new backup?

1. ATI Home 2010 Build 7160 6-22-11 full backup to ext.hdd.tib
Based on the last log files attachment, there is several instances of "cancelled by user" for the specific backup above we were interested in and since there is no size attached to this file your folder for that backup, I can only conclude that a good file does not exist.

Therefore, I would suggest that you create a new backup and checkmark the disk option so as to include all partitions. Also choose the validation option when creating the task. You can have it scheduled or non-scheduled at your discretion. You can use all your new suggestions for a backup name without periods or parenthesis and in a new folder, etc. The reason I am suggesting is that there does not seem to be any conclusive evidence that a full backup exists of all partitions.

2. I would strongly suggest that you validate your existing backups and the validation should occur when booted from the 7160 Rescue CD. I am referring to the ones in the My Backups Folder.
System_C_6-22-11.tib
System_C and D of My PC 6-21-11.tib
System_C_D_6-20-11 of her PC.tib

The illustrations below show how to validate these backup files when booted from the CD.

3. We did establish that the "creating partitions, etc" which you interpreted as an error was normal so we have not found anything that would imply your backups would not restore your files. However, we only have one true validation but it did pass so we have no reason to believe the others will not pass validation but I do want you to do the validation as requested. You could include the validation check as part of the backup on future tasks.

4. If you wish to remove the empty "new volume" partitions from your disk, I will be glad to assist but I would want to see a new screen capture of the Windows Disk Management and the capture must include all partitions. The last attachment seemed to indicate a "new volume" listed at the top but did not appear on the bottom illustration. I would also prefer to do this fix via private messaging rather than the forum postings.

If you choose to do this, we will need to download a couple special utility files and burn a CD from one of the downloaded file.The deletion is easy. It is the reassignment of the space which is more difficult. It is possible to do the reassignment using Windows 7 Disk management but it is not easy to do which is why I would prefer to use other free utilities. There is no rush. You can take your time about deciding what you want to do on item #4.

5. Except for the pending results of item 1 and 2, we seem to be winding down this thread unless you have other issues once you conclude your test restore of a couple files.

Click image to enlarge viewing

OK Coach and I will do as you say or as much as I can reasonably do with accuracy. Will start tomorrow after getting back into town; late.
As to those several "canceled by user" instances, I thought somewhere I indicated that I incorrectly(now I know differently thank you) thought that my external HD was being partitioned but through you, I now sadly know that backups were taking place hence the reason for my stopping the process. (wish Acronis instructions were more specific in that area for dummies like me) I will make a complete backup as you direct and with validation after it is complete. I will also validate those other backups, even though the external HD has had changes made to it by the several days' activity. Better than none I suppose. (Thought I remembered reading some time ago that a validation should be done immediately following a backup.)
4. I won't worry about this for now, largely because I don't need the gigs on C drive.
I may have to reserve the use of folders for backups for now as I may need more 'schooling'--you have a great idea there and I appreciate being told about its' use.
And finally, thanks for the images you provided. Hopefully I can do what you have suggested.
More tomorrow night.

Just so we are both speaking the same thing "I will make a complete backup as you direct and with validation after it is complete". The validation I am referring to is to checkmark the validation option inside the task so the validation will occur as part of the backup. You may be saying the same thing but I just wanted to make sure you understood the validation of the full backup is part of the task--not something the user does later. Refer figure 8 of guide.

On the other hand, it is possible to perform a validation as a single transaction and this can be done at any time.

The reason you do a validation as part of the backup or immediately thereafter is to find out if the backup is valid.

The reason you may do a validation later is to re-affirm that the backup has not become corrupt.

Validation is not a comparison of data from the file to the computer but validation is a check to make sure the bytes written to the hard disk is still readable and valid. A more detailed explanation of validation is available. I will see if I can find a reference.

And more thanks Grover. We are on the same page, I just sometimes have an uncanny way of restating what someone has written or said. The reason 1 or 2 of the backups were not validated inside the program was because I could not find the validation offering. Think it was in the Tools.
I think I pretty well understand the reason for always validating such material. When I couldn't validate, I would mount and look at some of the items backedup. Have had my share of corrupt CDs back before externals disks started being used..

Evidence of what I did late this afternoon while working in Windows 7. I don't understand the very first item at the top of the page showing the words--your system is not fully protected ;etc. and in blue print are the words back up my system. It only took 3 hours and 49 minutes from start through validation(Yep, I remembered to check mark it) That seems such a long long time. Attachments are for you. Perhaps I should wait to read your comments before I start the validation of those 2-3 backup I had made already. That will take some more time, as you can imagine but at least WE will know if they are corrupt free. And I will most likely need some more insight to create and put these backups into a fulder.

Attachment 1: Congratulations on the name change. Any backup created after the name change will include the name change. Old backups will still show the old Compaq name. The next chore is to rename your external drive from new volume to something of your choice. Maybe use size such as if the drive size is 500GB then name the external USB500 or similar. This attachment may explain the second confusing "new volume" name from the other day as the name belongs to the external disk and not the internal disk--see how the same name can be mis-understood!

Attachment 2: It shows successful completion of the task but of course you are the only one to know what the task was. Be sure and look at the log file for the most recent full backup--just to make sure there is no errors and also to look at what is included in the log. Note that each partition is listed as being backed up and also notice there is a successful validation. The log file can be really helpful to let you know what is happening.

The validation time will be half of what the backup and validation time was. Yes for sure, do the validation on the other files. You can let it run overnight if you wish. Validation time for each backup should be about 90-120 minutes each.

Let your current backups remain in the one folder but any new backups can be placed in a new folder. Just change the target from the "My Backups" to another folder--such as "MyBackups1" (no spaces), and onwards "MyBackups2" etc.

The only remaining issue would be for me to do a little research time on 2010 to see what options it offers as for cleanup of old backups so you do not end up with you getting a full disk error message on your external. What is the size of the external and how much free space do you have on it now. You new backup was probably around 91 GB as were the others. When you have a little spare time, you might look at some of the contents of your drive C to see if you have any old backups or other large files of which you don't need to reduce the 130GB of used space which would also reduce backup time.

I'll get back to you in a day or so after I reacquaint myself with the 2010 version of TI.

Thank you for your compliments; whatever I have done that is correct, I attribute to you. I feel sure I have taxed your nerves a bit with my inability to follow such good directions. I am learning, I think. My external is a 1T and I don't recall how much I have left that is unused but I would guess at least a half to 3/4. Of course, as time goes by I can delete the old, outdated and unwanted backups. I have done that on a smaller drive before. And then I can delete those backups that I stopped. I'll start the validations of those backups tomorrow.
I looked but could not see how I could do it but I wanted to "give" a few shields to you as recognition of staying with me. Mods, like you as volunteers on forum boards are irreplaceable. Without either, we would have not forums.

Backup validations have now been done for the June 20, 21 and 22 backups. ALL 11 trials at backups on
6-20-11 were aborted my me; most were stopped after a short while and 1 or 2 were a bit longer so those are of no use and should be deleted, I feel. There was one backup of "her PC" that is of little or no importance and I did not validate it although I did mount and saw some of the files. This backup was done on an old slow machine running XP and is very seldom used except in emergencies.
As you will see in the attachments the words 'operation has succeeded' in each backup. I take that to mean that validation succeeded. After each validation I saw the words: this archieve was succeesfully checked' OK was on an additional line and of course, I clicked on it.
What next Grover, if anything. Standing by for when you return.

Before we close this out, it might help to know what your plans are for regular backups? Do you you do all fulls or some full with either differential or differentials (how many?) and how frequently. You wrote about file deletion to remove excess. Is this all parts of the chain or only pieces? Knowing the above might help as I have started looking at the 2010 backup options.

I usually do full backups once per month; full or none at all. I am in no hurry to delete those old or unfinished backups because I am not hurting for space on the external.
Grover, there is not one single file on my computer that I can't do without. I would hate to lose the OS as I do not have the install factory CD but I do have the restore disk.
You sir, have been most helpful and understanding and patient with me in every way and I very much appreciate your willingness to help people like me. May your next endeavor be a far easier one. And with that I suppose I should say "Happy Trails" as Roy Rogers used to say. It could only be natural that I am omitting something but I believe I have covered everything you showed me to do. Feel free to bring "that" to my attention if I have.

Yes. I am a really ol' Roy Rodgers and Trigger fan as well. As long as your backup has the disk option checked to include all partitions, recovery to the same or a new disk should be successful. After the backup, do take the time to read the logs file for that backup..You can delete any of the log files you do not want to keep. My backups has saved me many times. Good luck with yours.

And I too have been saved several times with the ATI backup; once or twice in the past 12 months. I have to wonder how I was able to do it with the haphazard ways that I made backups. Well, I now know the correct way to make them, thanks to you and your generous time and help. And continued success with your walks in life.