Help with logical partitions

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I just purchased Disk Director 11 Home (Update 2) and have a couple of questions. In the past I've used Partition Magic (before Norton acquired it) and BING for partitioning, but frankly I'm stumped on how to use ADD11.

First, a really stupid question:-) I've searched the documentation and cannot find anything that explains the purpose & function of the little round blue icons with the upward slanted arrow inside. For example, the Resize dialog has 3 of them. A rollover tooltip would be nice but no joy there either. I know it's a stupid question, but I don't like making guesses with this stuff. Could someone please explain or point me to a resource that does?

Now for what I'm trying to do.

I have a disk with a logical volume labeled "Backups1" that's 298gb in size and contains 66gb of data. If I could see an extended partition in ADD11, I would want to select it and add 6 more logical volumes of varying sizes with different labels. I want these added partitions to appear before the existing Backups1 partition. And I want the data that's in Backups1 to stay in Backups1. I think the cause of some of my confusion is that I cannot see (or select) an "extended" partition in ADD11, which I'm used to seeing in other partitioning software.

I have a disk with a logical volume labeled "Backups1" that's 298gb in size and contains 66gb of data. I want to resize Backups1 to 70gb, and add 6 more logical volumes of varying sizes with different labels, and want the to appear BEFORE Backups1. I want the data that's in Backups1 to stay in Backups1. I think the cause of some of my confusion is that I cannot see (or select) an "extended" partition in ADD11, which I'm used to seeing in other partitioning software.

I looked at the Split Volume dialog and I'm not sure that's what I should use, but I don't see anything else that seems suited to the purpose. Like I said before, I don't like making guesses with this stuff. First off, Split Volume wants to put the new partition AFTER Backups1. And secondly, it wants to give it the same label.

Here's are rough sketches of what I want to accomplish, and with the labels I want to use.

Before:
--Backups1------------------------------------------

After:
--WXP--DATA--MARE--CDMEDIA--WEBS--PHOTOS--Backups1--

What steps are necessary in ADD11 for me to do that?

I suspect I'll have to go through multiple splitting operations, manually rename volumes after the fact, and likely perform a resize and move operation as well. But I really don't know what to expect from ADD11 or how to go about it.

Regards,
Frank

Dom, 12/02/2012 - 22:31
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Frank:

The little blue icons set the value in the adjacent box to maximum.

Disk Director does not display the extended partition container boundaries, like other partitioning software that you may be used to. The older version, in fact, allows logical partitions to be located anywhere on the disk, so they don't have to all be grouped adjacent to each other in an extended partition container. In a sense, Acronis decided to eliminate the concept of a container so it doesn't display. However, layouts created this way would not display correctly in Windows Disk Management, so a lot of people avoided doing that. I'm not positive that DD 11 has continued that practice, but they may have.

For your task the function that you want to use is "Resize", as follows:

1. Right-click on your existing 298 GB logical partition and choose "Resize"
2. In the resize dialog, drag the left border of the graphic to the right until the partition is 70 GB in size and is located at the end of the disk, leaving unallocated space before the partition.
3. Create new logical volumes in the unallocated space, choosing a size and location as you create them. You probably will want to start the first new one at the beginning of the disk and go from there.

It's easier to do than to describe because of the graphic display, so you'll catch on quickly.

If you haven't yet done so, back up your data before making changes to the partition layout in case something goes wrong.

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Thanks Mark,

Ahh yes.... Resize. My mistake was not choosing that first, and going straight to Split. Everything fell into place after the resize, then it made more sense and was very easy to use.

I can understand Acronis wanting to streamline their interface and make extended partitions transparent to users. But as you said (re: Windows Disk Mgmt) that's not the reality in the rest of the partitioning world. New users, IMO, would be better off at least being made aware of extended partitions rather than being completely sheltered from them in Acronis. And users of other partitioning software would feel more at home to at least see them appear in Acronis even though there's no way to access them. Just sayin !

Thanks again.

Regards,
Frank

Mer, 12/05/2012 - 03:25
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Frank:

Glad things worked out for you. The Resize function is the one that applies to most partitioning situations, but new users are drawn to split and merge first, which are the features that cause the largest share of problems that are posted here on the forum. They are dangerous, IMHO, because when they fail they cause data loss. In a way I wish that Acronis would remove them from the software.

Mer, 12/05/2012 - 03:58
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I couldn't agree more, Mark. I had a partition at the very end of a disk, and another right next to it. I wanted to delete the one at the end and use the free space to enlarge the partition next to it. In other partitioning software I would have deleted the one and resized the other. But for some strange reason, in Acronis I was drawn to the Merge operation. Good thing I read about it before going any farther. Resize was the right choice after all. Perhaps if it was named "Merge Data" it might not have caught my attention. Being new to Acronis, but not to partitioning in general, I can see where this could be dangerous.

Have a great day, it was nice chatting with you.

Regards,
Frank

Mer, 12/05/2012 - 23:48