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Okay so I read thru a couple searches on this question but still not sure about the answer so I figured I would ask with what my situation concerns.

I have made a back up of my image from my Dell Laptop. It already contains a back up image on the drive. I have yet to find it thru the Dell Back up & Recovery though.

Im using a bootable cd with ATI on it.

My question is do I need to select all of these in photo 1 (NTFS (OS)(C:), MBR & Track 0, EFI SYstem Partition,Fat32 DIAGS,Recovery Partition - 750MB, & Recovery Partition 8.40GB)  for recovery?

On a few screens, I am being asked to specify the target for each partition (i.e. Settings for Partition 1-2, Settings for Partition 3-4). Do I just leave that alone or do I click new location? Example photo from online.

http://dl2.acronis.com/u/kb/57950-12.png

I have never seen MBR and Track 0 when using ATI and image recovery in the past. So this is new to me nowadays. Do I need to check mark that and I assume it goes to the primary drive(disk 1) in photo 2.

 

 

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Rufus, I would recommend selecting the whole disk drive when both backing up and when restoring, so then you do not need to set the size for each individual partition that is included.

Your system is using UEFI to boot into Windows so this is definitely required as is your C: OS partition, the Diags and larger Recovery partitions are those provided originally by Dell for your laptop to allow recovery back to a factory image and running laptop diagnostics.  The other Recovery partition comes from doing a Windows OS upgrade and provides options for doing a Startup Repair etc which would otherwise require you to boot from a Windows Install or Repair disc.

MBR and track 0 are not normally needed when recovering to the same drive but may be required if recovering to a new, raw drive - these will provide the means of accessing such as the Diags and Factory Recovery partitions.

See post: 128057: [Tutorial] How to recover an entire disk backup which shows how to do this type of recovery.

Note: Your Acronis Rescue Media should be used for this type of OS drive recovery and this needs to be booted using the UEFI mode to be the same as that used by your Windows OS.  

Thank you Steve for the quick response and link referral to your write up. It is greatly appreciated for your & Bobbo help here on the forums.

Would you know how to access the recovery partition of the Windows OS upgrade(startup repair)? I have yet to find out how to actually do that on the laptop. The only thing I found was Dell Backup & Recovery which I havent messed with.  I actually made 2 backup images with Acronis. One the way the laptop came and one with Windows Updates installed. The second image I made has the window updates I downloaded. I had a problem that seems to be common with Win 8.1, the update wont connect to microsofts server. I found a 4 method trial process with the last (4th) downloading a offline windows update tool. It updated but I didnt have the option of selecting the updates I wanted. It appeared to run thru a command prompt screen or so it resembled it. It took a long time to update. Since then I have yet to try the windows update to see if it will connect the regular way. Have you ever heard of this before and know of a solution to get it to work other than thru the offline tool? Here is the website I found that helped with the last method. Otherwise the other methods failed for me. https://www.howisolve.com/checking-for-updates-stuck-solved-windows-7-s…

Anyway back to the MBR and Track 0. I take it you suggest, for ease of the recovery process ,to include this on the recovery from the back up image (even if its the same drive)? I would assume to just select disk 1 when I come to the screen like in ati1.jpg photo that I posted in the above post.

Do you know of a good website that explains in general terms what MBR and Track 0 actually is and does please? I was just curious to know as I have never seen this before.

Rufus,

It is not clear what all you looked at for your Windows update problem.  This link gives a great overview of the most used FIXES for the problem

https://www.lifewire.com/when-windows-update-gets-stuck-or-frozen-26244…

As for the MBR and Track 0 question, those are terms that are used by Acronis and are thus specific to Acronis.  In general the MBR is the first 63 sectors of the disk.  This is where Track 0 infomation is stored which includes the Master boot code, drive signature and in the case of OEM machines possibly information on OEM tools/recovery.  Consider this space a custom boot/repair area on disk.  So Steve is right that if you have a Dell machine for example that you made a backup of from the factory OS install and you need to replace the disk drive in that machine and you want to restore the factory image with all OEM recovery tools etc. intact then you need to recover the MBR and Track 0.  Likewise, if you perform a recovery of an image you created to the same disk and it fails to boot it is possible that the info in the MBR Track 0 space has been corrupted so you can recovery those to the disk in an attempt to repair the boot process of the disk.  If you have a custom boot loader for example as you would on a dual boot machine then this also would require recovery of the MBR Track 0 for the same reasons/scenarios mentioned previously.

Thanks Enchantech for the explanation. I think I understand the process of it all. But just to make sure I understand what your saying would this be correct? It sounds like if you do a recovery process thru Acronis & the drive fails to boot up, the drive could have a corrupted MBR and Track 0. Thru Acronis recovery you can re-write the MBR & Track 0 by selecting that option only from that back up image and possibly repair that section so it boots up?

Yes, that is correct. :)

Thank you very much. I appreciate the great help and support from all the great volunteers here. *thumbs up*