info request - using a backup created with a previous version
Just a few days ago I updated my ATIH 2011 to ATIH 2013 Plus Pack. Now I would like to make a system restore to solve a few problems I got recently ( not related with ATIH ). The problem is: I've got a FULL system backup created with ATIH 2011 on 9\12\2012 - 6 days ago -. The backup is regurarly detected by ATIH 2013, and it looks available for restore. The question: can I use this backup to restore system? If so, what I will get at the end of restoring process? ATIH 2013 will be still running or ATIH 2011 will be restored as well (backup has been created with ATIH 2011 ) ?
Thanks in advance to everyone will be so kind to reply and provide helpfull info.
O.S Win7 Professional SP1 x86
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I started the restore from StartUp Recovery Manager (F11) and evrything went OK. Re- installed version 2013, everything OK as well. Thanks a lot.
By the way, I noticed version 2013 suggests to make backup even of PQSERVICE partition. Usually I don't make that, do you think it is really needed?
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Mark:
It might be helpful to have at least one backup of all of your partitions. However, since the PQSERVICE partition does not change, further backups of the partition aren't necessary.
I think Acronis responded to the requests of some of the forum MVPs to make the default backup include the entire disk. You are free to change this, of course, but if a user has an image of their entire disk it allows easy replacement if the disk fails without worrying about how many partitions are on the disk or where they are located.
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Mark Wharton wrote:Mark:
It might be helpful to have at least one backup of all of your partitions. However, since the PQSERVICE partition does not change, further backups of the partition aren't necessary.
I think Acronis responded to the requests of some of the forum MVPs to make the default backup include the entire disk. You are free to change this, of course, but if a user has an image of their entire disk it allows easy replacement if the disk fails without worrying about how many partitions are on the disk or where they are located.
Yeah, that's right. If I understood correctly backup of entire disk (PQSERVICE included) can be useful just in case hard disk go BROKEN, or stop working. Am I right ?
But if main hard disk go broken, is it possble to use backup -stored on a different disk - to restore system in a working one ? I mean, is it still possible to start ATI - from BootCD for example (of course the disk containing the FULL backup can be connected to a different machine, but in that case one more machine is needed) ?
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Mark:
Yes, you can use your backup to restore to a new hard disk in case your existing disk fails. Depending on where your backup is stored you may or may not need an additional machine. If the backup is stored on a removable USB disk or on a second internal hard disk then no additional machine is needed. You just put a new disk in place of your failed disk, boot from the recovery CD, and restore your backup image to the new disk.
An additional machine is needed only if the backup is stored on a PC on your network. That network storage location is your "additional machine".
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Mark Wharton wrote:Mark:
Yes, you can use your backup to restore to a new hard disk in case your existing disk fails. Depending on where your backup is stored you may or may not need an additional machine. If the backup is stored on a removable USB disk or on a second internal hard disk then no additional machine is needed. You just put a new disk in place of your failed disk, boot from the recovery CD, and restore your backup image to the new disk.
An additional machine is needed only if the backup is stored on a PC on your network. That network storage location is your "additional machine".
Thanks for your reply.
Not sure I understood..If the backup is stored ,for example, in a second internal hard disk I can restore system using recovery CD even if ATI is installed in the broken disk (replaced) . Is it correct ?
By the way, how can I test a recovery CD -just to check if is working .- on a machine that has got no any kind of boot problems ?
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Mark:
Yes, the recovery CD contains its own operating system and ATI. When you boot a PC with it you can back up and/or restore the PC with the version of ATI on the CD. You do not need the Windows version of ATI installed to do this. The CD is stand-alone.
You can test the CD on any PC. Just boot the PC from the recovery CD and start setting up a backup. Go through the dialogs until the very end, just before committing the operation, then cancel. If you were able to see all of the disks and partitions on the CD then that's a pretty strong indication that everything's working.
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Mark Wharton wrote:Mark:
Yes, the recovery CD contains its own operating system and ATI. When you boot a PC with it you can back up and/or restore the PC with the version of ATI on the CD. You do not need the Windows version of ATI installed to do this. The CD is stand-alone.
You can test the CD on any PC. Just boot the PC from the recovery CD and start setting up a backup. Go through the dialogs until the very end, just before committing the operation, then cancel. If you were able to see all of the disks and partitions on the CD then that's a pretty strong indication that everything's working.
Mark Wharton wrote:Mark:
Yes, the recovery CD contains its own operating system and ATI. When you boot a PC with it you can back up and/or restore the PC with the version of ATI on the CD. You do not need the Windows version of ATI installed to do this. The CD is stand-alone.
You can test the CD on any PC. Just boot the PC from the recovery CD and start setting up a backup. Go through the dialogs until the very end, just before committing the operation, then cancel. If you were able to see all of the disks and partitions on the CD then that's a pretty strong indication that everything's working.
That is a great info, very useful. I'll make even PQSERVICE backup now...Thanks.
About testing recovery CD, not sure I understood...To use the recovery CD I need to switch on the PC, of course,but after I switch on the PC I can't stop it from booting...I'm sure there is a very simple solution for this, but at the moment I don't get it..
Even if I switch on the PC with recovery CD already inserted Windows boots in the usual way
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Mark:
To cause the PC to boot from a CD you need to change the settings in the PC BIOS. These are accessed, depending on how your PC manufacturer configured the BIOS, by pressing a key, usually F2 or DEL, as the PC starts up. Some PCs will display which key to press on the screen as the PC starts. Others have a special key, usually F12, that you can press at startup to temporarily alter the boot device. Your PC's documentation will describe how to do this. Or, you can read this article: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ss/bootorderchange.htm
When you figure out how to do this on your PC, set it up so that the first boot device is the CD, followed by the primary hard disk.
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Thanks for reply and info. The message in my PC mentions DEL and F12, not sure which one is requested because it shows for a very short time but this is not a problem. My question is: what can I do if I change the setup settings, make it "boot from CD" and Windows fail to boot ? Is there a workaround to solve this issue ? Or perhaps if Windows fail to boot from CD it will automatically boot from main HD ?
However, I'm quite sure the recovery CD is working, already happened a few times Windows was not bootable anymore and I had been able to restore a working one just because of recovery cd.
By the way, what DEL stands for ?
Thanks
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Mark,
DEL = Delete key.
DEL is probably the key you want to use if you wish to change the boot order permently. F12 is probably the key which allows you to temporarily change the boot device. If you have a Gigabyte motherboard this definitely the key definitions.
If you change the BIOS to allow booting from CD all that happens is that the BIOS checks to see if there are booting files on the CD, if there are not, it will continue to the next boot device, probably your hard drive.
If you do have a Gigabyte motherboard you may find you have to also change boot priority to CD first, at least on mine I do. My boot order is USB Drive, CD, Hard Drive.
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