Is it worth it?
I've Acronis True Image 11 at the moment and have no problems with it.....So is it worth the move to 2010? Is the trial a fully working unit? Is it best to uninstall 11 and perform a clean install? Is best to wait till the "niggles" are sorted out?

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I was looking for a more subjective reply rather than a "sales pitch"
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If you change from ATI 11, and you use Backup Locations, you'll have to adapt to a new method of backup file management. But more importantly, regardless of features, since the first release of ATI versions usually have serious or critcal bugs, I'd wait a few months (until a fix-it build is released) before considering updating unless you have a pressing need to do so sooner. In that case, make a backup of your disk and then do a full cleaning of ATI 11 from your system before trying out ATI 13/2010 for free.
I'm hanging with ATI 10, at least until more is learned about the quality of ATI 13/2010.
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I too have TI-11 running daily with no issues.
There are enough new things to TI-2010 that I am upgrading.
Starting with "try&decide" protecting through a reboot. There was one incident a few months ago where I performed a complete HD restore after installing a new piece of software and seeing that I hated both it and how It changed my settings. Even though TI-11 has "try&decide" it ends with doing a reboot. A complete HD restore was my only option. It only took 90 min or and was 100% successful. Acronis is truely a great product.
That said, TI-2010 out of the box does NOT work for me. I have an open support request to them.
because of the surge they will get from new people on a new product I do not expect a quick turn around (but I may be surprised).
To my mind, yes there is enough promise out there that TI-2010 is worth the upgrade.
If your hoping for a relatively bug free product, from my experience, today is NOT the day.
I would say yes upgrade, its up to you if you want to do now or put it on your x-mas list.
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You have to compare what you feel is lacking in your present backup system with TIxx and then see if TI2010 addresses it and makes things overall better for you and I emphasize the "you". It won't be the same for everybody. Of course, there will be those who upgrade just because it is the latest version and I'll likely fall into that category even though it really isn't a good reason to change but the PC is a bit of a hobby so the risk is minimal. If the current version does everything you need and you are happy there really isn't any compelling reason to change. Upgrade to Win7 or new hardware would possibly a reason to seriously consider an upgrade.
At this time, I would like thank everybody who runs out and installs it upon its release. This will ensure that when I do it, the bugs will have been uncovered and hopefully fixed. The Acronis record on new version QA is, to be kind, not the best; releases are based on marketing department date, not readiness for prime-time.
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Ever the faithful optimist! Uncovered? Yes. Fixed, wellllllll. . . .;)
Seekforever wrote:. . .
At this time, I would like thank everybody who runs out and installs it upon its release. This will ensure that when I do it, the bugs will have been uncovered and hopefully fixed. . .
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If you "wait till the "niggles" are sorted out", you'll be waiting forever. The Acronis track record is to press on regardless of whether previous bugs are fixed. Now, while it is true that some previous bugs are fixed in newer versions, you also get new bugs, some serious, with the new versions.
If your present version does what you want I would stick with it unless you like experimenting with software.
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Why don't you just backup your system using acronis true image 11 and then download and install the fully functional free trial. Work with it for a few days and come to your own conclusion. It works fine for me and I love it but that doesn't mean you will like it. Just backup and give it a try. If you don't like it restore your backup. You can always come back here if you have questions, but relying on our speculation as to if you will like it is not productive.
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For a great many products, just try it yourself and decide is low risk and it's a recommendation I also make in many cases. But given what Acronis has relased in the last couple of years, I think it's more prudent for folks let it breathe before taking any gulps -- unless there is some pressing need. Not only is the risk higher that ATI will do something it shouldn't, but it's likely also that support will be even harder to get as it gets bogged down with new purchasers experience probs. This happened with both ATI 11 and 12. It's only been a few days since ATI 13/2010 was released.
I'm not saying folks shouldn't upgrade if they have a reason/need to do so; just that it's proven to be high risk with ATI.
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NO - at this point, I've installed TI2010 some days before, at the moment I can say a big NO!
When running Windows 7, like I do, the update is a must but also very frustrating. I've already posted some issues here and some of them are really annoying.
The most frustrating one is that validation of TI2010 backup images is not possible and constantly fails with an error - no matter if a backup to a local drive or to a NAS. So one can never be sure if the backup is OK or not!
The second annoyance is that TI freezes occasionally and sometimes even reproducible.
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Micky wrote:...
The most frustrating one is that validation of TI2010 backup images is not possible and constantly fails with an error - no matter if a backup to a local drive or to a NAS. So one can never be sure if the backup is OK or not!
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Were you able to validate with earlier versions of TI or is TI2010 the only one you've tried? If you have never validated successfully with a previous version, it could by something other than TI2010.
Have you tried it with both the TI rescue CD and Windows?
Is the TI2010 format different from TI2009 or will TI2009 validate/restore the archives?
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Micky wrote:The most frustrating one is that validation of TI2010 backup images is not possible and constantly fails with an error - no matter if a backup to a local drive or to a NAS. So one can never be sure if the backup is OK or not!
I have upgraded to TI 2010 and am very please with it. Everything I've tried works really well including backup validation. In fact I haven't found anything that doesn't work yet. I'm running Windows 7 and am about to check out the boot to image feature. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Ok, I've to take back one of my comments: Validation now seems to work. The failure was caused by some (buggy) memory modules.
However the freeze of TI2010 while modifying a backup task and switching from one tab to another still remains!
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Micky wrote:However the freeze of TI2010 while modifying a backup task and switching from one tab to another still remains!
I agree with the task modification bug and it is annoying to not be able to modify a task but what is the tab switching bug?
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I named it tab switching bug simply because I did not find a more appropriate name for this issue. I guess we are talking about the very same bug, however.
I've described this "tab switching bug" here: forum.acronis.com/forum/3932
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Does 2010 suport usb/esata drives? 2009 was pretty worthless for me since snapman constantly blue screened whenever I had an external drive connected.
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Boghound: you specifically asked "Is it best to uninstall 11 and perform a clean install? "
I can say without a doubt YES!
TI_2010 would NOT work on my pc, I even opened up a support case# trying to get TI_2010 to run on this PC.
The solution was to un-install then re-install TI_2010 on what is now a clean system.
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Boghound wrote:... Is it best to uninstall 11 and perform a clean install? ...
As like oracledba, my experience was that a clean install was required. The upgrade from V11 was buggy but a clean install now presents no problems.
Update: Would also like to add that, unlike with ATI Home 2009, 2010 allows me to successfully mount an image in Windows 7. That alone is worth the $30 upgrade "fee"! (at least, to me).
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I bought the upgrade to 2010, and it works fine on my Vista machine. I do like the new features. Unfortunately 2010 kills inbound network connections on my WinXP Pro SP3 box (among other problems), despite a clean install. :-(
Edit: Just learned of a fix that actually works! http://forum.acronis.com/forum/3978#comment-4617
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Dmitry wrote:Booting from tib images containing Windows 7 - Boot your machine from an image of Windows 7 to test if it works fine without performing the actual recovery. See Acronis True Image Home 2010: Booting from VHD File to Windows 7;
Are you saying you can create a "bootable image" of the backup if you are running Windows 7?
I can image my sisters Mac onto a bootable external drive (LaCie's are bootable) then she can take that drive to her boyfriends house and boot her Mac from his Mac. When she is finished working on "her" computer from "his" she comes home - gives it to me and I restore that image back onto her Mac - it's like she never left home. Are you saying something like that is possible here. Because if you are that is darn noteworthy.
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Okay, I read you can only boot from the machine that backed it up - but still, that is impressive...
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OK, so this raises a dumb question in my mind. I have used v10, 2009 and am contemplating 2010. I usually install the update...create a recovery CD and then uninstall from Windows. I don't like all the services running, etc. So If I uninstall 2010 after creating a recovery CD. I will NOT be able to boot inti the recovery CD and do my backups / restores from there? I have always liked the cleaner way TI runs in the recovery environment...
Could someone elaborate
Thanks
Bob
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My understanding is Nothing about how you choose to use TI will change - the recovery cd will work similar to what you are familar.
The bootable image discussed above is something new/different that I do not have personal experience with.
My understanding is if your intent is to ONLY use the recovery cd and do all your backups (and restores) from the cd then I think you are bypassing virtually all the new features of TI_2010 with the possible exception of built in support for newer hardware.
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My other need is not necessarily hardware...Windows 7! That would be the only reason for me to upgrade at this point....TI2009 has been good to me
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If all you want is full backup and restore from the Cd, then you might find you have all you want with ATI 12/2009. Not certified for W7 but reportedly it does backup and restore. It's all the ATI doodads that don't function correctly in W7.
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