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I recently upgraded my TI 2013 to TI 2014 and am having problems in managing my old backups. I always create a new single version backup of the complete drive.

I use two different External USB HDDs and save my regular backups to each in rotation in the event that one of these drives will at some point fail.

When I made a new backup with TI 2013 I always cleared the list of available backups and then browsed for those on the relevant HDD in use at that time. I would then delete the oldest one and move the latest one into a separate folder and then create another new single version backup.

I see that TI 2014 has changed in that removing from the list now makes the backup inaccessible to TI and, most peculiarly to my mind, one has to now use delete to remove it from the list.

Before I realised this strange change to the workings of TI 2014 I have removed some old backups from the list and now cannot bring them back to move or permanently delete them.

As they are now inaccessible to the list in TI, can I just move or delete them using Windows Explorer? If I move any, will they still be available to me should I need to use them to recover my drive?

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Curious. Which version of Windows?
The use of the delete function is not needed in order to remove a single task from the main gui.
Place the mouse pointer inside the task to be removed. Click the gearwheel (extreme right) or click the "Settings" option.
That wil open the listing of options. Click the "More" option and the "Remove from list" becomes visible.

In my opinion, the best way to manage backups is to use a custom task with automatic cleanup. This will enable the program to auto delete the oldest backups once the user designated number of chains to keep is reached (store x number of recent version chains) Click on link 2 below and look at illustration 11-Full for use instead of Single Version.

As 2013 and 2014 both use the Metafile history method of tracking your backups, you really need to use a separate backup task for each of your storage disks. The program records the disk ID of both the source and the target and these must match in order for the backups to be successful. Each task is mated to a specific backup disk.

One option would be create the two tasks needed for the two disks and have both tasks be non-scheduled.
Then use the Windows Task Scheduler to run each task accoring to your schedule needs.
It is easy to enable or disable a Windows Task so as you switch disks, you could disable one Windows schedule task and enable the other Windows scheduled task.

Help using Windows Scheduler to run backups can be found by clicking link 1 below and finding index item 3-A.

The way you were doing it with ATI2013 sounds complicated and too much work. Keep things simple. Macke tasks to run alternately (for example on M,W,F, SA and T, TH, SA, if you want them to run on schedule or else manually run them alternately. One task per backup location. Otherwise, ATI I going to get confused about the backups it's trying to keep track of. The tasks can automatically delete the oldest files when the specified number is reached. This is all in the user guide, btw.

I am using Windows 7 Home premium SP1 64-bit.

Thanks for your responses and suggestions but my method seems to me to be quite simple. I make a full disc backup every two weeks or so using my two External USB HDDs and have had no problems in doing this. I do not have my External HDDs permanently connected, only when I need to use them. In the past I have used one of these backups to create a new HDD for my Laptop when it failed so I am confident the system works for me.

The only problem I have, and which I posted about, was the change to the workings of TI 2014 and TI 2013 in the way that one can include or not include backups in the list within the TI Window. Because I inadvertently used the TI 2013 method to remove items from the list in my new TI 2014 I cannot now get them back to move or delete them; that is why I wanted to know whether I can just move them or delete them in Explorer and if so will any that I move still be available to me if needed, even though they will not appear in the TI 2014 List.

Eric,
As long as the backup files are accessible somewhere on a disk and not corrupted, they are available for restore.

The method I use is this:
The only backup tasks I keep on my main screen are ones which are actively being backed up either via schedule or manually. All others, I use the "Remove from list" option. Theses unwanted tasks do not need to be there & just increase the boot time. Also, I have turned off the "Scan for backup" option listed along the top row menu for further time saving.

Any restore of a partiton of a disk is best done when booted from the TI Recovery CD so part of the CD recovery procedure is to browse to the storage disk and select the backup to be restored so the Windows listing of backup tasks serves little purpose. Plus, if you really need one group of files, you can still choose the "add to backup" option and browse to the selected recovery files and then use the "Add to backup list" option.

If the backup files do not appear within the listing of tasks, then you can move manually or delete manually.

This link may or may not be of interest.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/48295#comment-165175

Thanks for the clarification and for the link.