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Procedure For Using Universal Restore

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Using ATI 2015 Build 6525

Is there any documentation or a procedure for using Universal Restore?

I want to get a copy of my existing hard drive onto a new, slightly larger one.

I know someone will say "just follow the on screen instructions", but that seldom works for me, sorry.

Could this be a general outline of how it will work?:

1 - image ( called "a backup"? ) the existing hard drive to an external hard drive

2 - Create Universal Restore Media ( on DVD or Jump Drive? Does it matter? )

3 - Remove existing hard drive

4 - Install new hard drive

5 - Using the Universal Restore Media, begin the process of rebuilding the original hard drive on the newly installed one?

I was going to try and clone the new drive, but I've managed to cob that up in the past.

Any help ( or constructive criticism ) would be appreciated.

Thank you for your time.

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Patmac,

You do not need to use Universal Restore for what you are wanting to do in moving to a larger hard drive - UR is only needed when moving to different hardware such as a new computer system.

The simplest approach would be as follows:

Create the standard ATIH 2015 rescue media on DVD or USB stick.  
Note: I would recommend updating ATIH 2015 to the latest build 6613 as you say you are using build 6525 which is downlevel.

Next, test that your system will boot from the rescue media and you can see your internal and external hard drives.

Once the test is successful, you can make a backup of your current internal hard drive using either the Windows version of ATIH 2015 or using the bootable rescue media - storing the backup image on your external hard drive.

Next, remove your current internal hard drive and replace it with your new larger internal drive.

Boot from the Acronis rescue media with your external drive connected and restore the backup image to the new drive.

Finally, shutdown, remove the rescue media and external drive and restart the system from the larger internal drive.

See article: 117004: Great Acronis "How-To" videos and other Acronis Resources for videos on doing this procedure.

Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

With such great instructions you are probably going to wonder how can this guy have any more questions!

I just want to clear some things up on my end, nothing to do wit your explanation:

1-the external drive I will be using has other items on it, I'm guessing I'll be able to spot the latest backup?

2-after ceating the Rescue Media, to test, connect the external where the backup is, insert the Rescu Media (CD or USB? ), then Restart or have to hard boot? Once I see it works, i.e. it sees the external and internal drives, do I just Exit or close down the Rescue Media?

3-When creating the Rescue Media, will Acronis tell me what size media I need?

4-you stated earlier "make a backup of the existing drive using the Windows version of ATH 2015 OR using the bootable Rescue Media - storing the backup image on the external hard drive". I'm confused, I thougt that's what I was doing.

5-I went into the Rescue Media section of ATI and it has two options:

    1-Acronis Bootable Rescue Media, which has two options:

      iso file, iso image or CD Drive (E:)

Where do I select CD, DVD or USB Flash Drive?

It also says "build an ISO image of a bootable disk" in there too?

    2-WINPE-Based media with Acronis plug-in

If I'm over thinking this, I can take the criticism. I just want to make this is smooth as possible because I know I'm going to have to do this again on other PCs ( do they still call them that? ) that we have.

The new drive is on it's way. In the mean time I will do the upgrade/update to the newer build and do my AV scans. Windows updates are automatic, so that's good except for the crazy Windows 10 messages....

I'll check out the Article you referenced above when I get a chance.

Thank you again for your time.

 

    

Patmac,

1-the external drive I will be using has other items on it, I'm guessing I'll be able to spot the latest backup?  

You should store your backups in a folder with a suitable name to make it easy for you to find them.  

2-after ceating the Rescue Media, to test, connect the external where the backup is, insert the Rescu Media (CD or USB? ), then Restart or have to hard boot? Once I see it works, i.e. it sees the external and internal drives, do I just Exit or close down the Rescue Media?

It is important to test that the rescue media works and can see all the drives involved.  It is best to insert the DVD media then shutdown / restart to avoid any issues with Windows Fast Start.  You should also start the rescue media in the same way as Windows starts using UEFI or Legacy mode.

Once you have the rescue media working and can see all the drives then you can just exit from the ATIH program which will shutdown.

3-When creating the Rescue Media, will Acronis tell me what size media I need?

With ATIH 2016 you will need either a blank DVD or a 1GB USB memory stick.  It is too big to fit on a CD.

4-you stated earlier "make a backup of the existing drive using the Windows version of ATH 2015 OR using the bootable Rescue Media - storing the backup image on the external hard drive". I'm confused, I thougt that's what I was doing.

You can create the full backup of the existing drive at whatever point suits you but unless the rescue media is working, then you won't be able to restore the backup to the new drive.  You can choose whether to creae the backup using the rescue media or the Windows Acronis program, both are equally capable of doing this.

5-I went into the Rescue Media section of ATI and it has two options:
    1-Acronis Bootable Rescue Media, which has two options:
      iso file, iso image or CD Drive (E:)
Where do I select CD, DVD or USB Flash Drive?
It also says "build an ISO image of a bootable disk" in there too?

    2-WINPE-Based media with Acronis plug-in

The simplest method is to use option 1 to create the standard (linux based) rescue media by putting a blank DVD in your optical drive E: then choosing that option.  You do not need to create an ISO file or the WINPE media unless the standard rescue media cannot access your drive(s).

Steve,

I made the Rescue Media and did a full backup to an external hard drive.

I followed your instructions ( hopefully ), and never saw a point where I could "see" the Rescue Media DVD, the existing internal hard drive and the external with the backup on it.

I hooked up the external with the backup on it, installed the Rescue Media into the DVD tray and did a Restart.

The black screen stated "Starting Acronis Loader", so, as I was reading the options listed on the right side of the screen, one of which was "Start Windows"....Windows started and loaded. My two Users  ( a Limited User and the Main Adinistrator ) came up. I picked the usual, The Limited User and Windows came up as usual.

I went to Computer to see if I could see the external drive, the DVD and the existing drive and I could.

I did a Restart again, screen said "Shuting Down", then "Starting Acronis Loader" again. This time I selected Acronis True Image.

The screen said "Acronis Loading". I selected Recover-->Browse for backups....then it went into a DOS screen saying it was collecting reports. It finally finished that and asked me to "Please plug in a USB Flash Drive"

I was thinking it was asking for the external (USB) drive, so I unplugged that and plugged it back in with no change.

I happened to have a new USB stick, so I plugged that in. The system was saying Press Enter to Reboot.

"Starting Acronis Loader" came up again, I let it go into Windows, it installed the Store N Go Verbatim drivers from the USB stick, and Windows came up normally.

It got late so I wrote this. I have pics of the screens if you need them.

What did I miss?

Thanks again for your time.

 

Edit: just checked the USB stick it asked for and there's a zipped Acronis Report on it.

 

Patmac wrote:

I did a Restart again, screen said "Shuting Down", then "Starting Acronis Loader" again. This time I selected Acronis True Image.

The screen said "Acronis Loading". I selected Recover-->Browse for backups....then it went into a DOS screen saying it was collecting reports. It finally finished that and asked me to "Please plug in a USB Flash Drive"

Edit: just checked the USB stick it asked for and there's a zipped Acronis Report on it.

The option that you have taken from the Acronis rescue media was for Acronis System Report hence why you saw the DOS screen and now have a zipped Acronis Report on your USB stick.

Please take a look at article: 117004: Great Acronis "How-To" videos and other Acronis Resources which may help with examples of this type of restore in action.

The key point here is that when booted from the rescue media, you should get an actual option for Acronis True Image as well as the one for the System Report and to boot normally into Windows.  If you are not seeing these options or do not see your disk drives then there is a possibility that you are not booted in the same way as your Windows OS boots, in that case please see the link for 05 - Poolarity - How to Fix Issue Booting to DVD/CD with New UEFI BIOS Boot Order - YouTube

Steve,

From what I can gather, my backup is fine, however I need to sort out the UEFI vs.Legacy issue regarding booting and the Rescue Media?

Thanks.

Patmac, another web page that may help you to confirm what mode your OS boots in:

Check if your PC uses UEFI or BIOS

Steve,

I checked using MSInfo32 and next to Boot Device, mine says: \Device\HardDiskVolume2.

Is that another name for BIOS that I didn't know about?

I'm not sure if I ever told you this is on a Windows 7 Home Premium system, if that matters.

Thanks again for your time.

Patmac, it sounds like you have a legacy system assuming that \Device\HardDiskVolume2 does not refer to an EFI System partition (FAT32 format) which would indicate an UEFI boot system.

Please see Acronis True Image 2015 Recovering System With Boot UP Disc which shows the Acronis rescue media being booted in Legacy / BIOS mode where you have a blue menu with graphics.

If you boot the media in UEFI mode, then you will see a DOS type black & white menu instead.

Steve,

I've attached 9 pics of the screens ( I'm guessing they are attached, let me know if not ) of what I went through.

Bottom line I was able to boot from the Rescue Media and navigate to the Backup I recently made on the external drive.

Is that what we are ultimately trying to do?

I plugged in the external, loaded the DVD Rescue Media and did a Restart and pic acronis_1 came up, then acronis_2 came up at which I picked the Acronis True Image option. Next acronis_3, 4, 5 , 6 , 7 8 and acronis_9 came up, at which I was able to navigate to the backup I wanted.

Not sure what happened the first time, but does this all seem like I'm going in the right direction?

A continuing thanks for your time....

 

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Patmac, thanks for the screen shots, they look correct to me, especially if you are now able to navigate to the backup archive you want to access.  The only other test you could make, if you wish to do so, is to restore a couple of files from the backup to a temporary location.

The next step per your original plan would be to remove the existing drive, replace it with the larger drive then boot from the Acronis media and restore your backup of the removed drive to the new larger drive.

Thanks for hanging with me on this Steve!

So, from booting with the Rescue Media, I can go to the 85GB .tib file, and with the booted Acronis, find some select files to test with?

So if I have this right, I could create a "Test Restore" folder on the existing drive, navigate to the full backup of said drive, and only recover a few select files to the "Test Restore" folder I just made on said drive?

I do feel like I'm moving forward, but it must be really slow for you!!!

Thanks

Patmac, that is fine and you are making good progress - far better to take your time and get it right while there is no immediate urgency to recover your computer than to find out that you either have a problem or don't understand the process when it is your only option to get things working again.

Steve,

So my statement about restoring select files from the 85GB .tib file on the external drive is correct?

Thanks again

Patmac, yes that is a good test for the restore process and archive integrity.

Steve,

So, when I navigate to the full backup .tib file on my external drive, I'll be able to click on it and find specific files that I know exist...?

I thought the .tib file was an image of my existing drive, in some sort of format only to be unraveled with Acronis restore software...

So, I'm taking some steps backwards, again. :-)

Patmac, when you are booted from the Acronis Rescue Media, you can take the option to Restore (Recover) Files & Folders and navigate to these in the panels that are shown once you have selected the backup image to restore from.