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Saving complete disk backups with different names for different versions

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I am having trouble saving complete hard drive backup images under different names. I don't backup that often, and I don't want to fool with incremental or differential backups. I just want to save the whole hard drive image using different names every month or so, so I could easily restore the hard drive if I ever need to. But the program seems to overwrite the old file using the original name--even if I assign a different name. I must be doing something stupid.

That's the way I used the Ghost imaging system years ago, and I'm sure Acronis must be able to do the same thing.

Thanks,
Charles

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Charles,

The only way I can think of for you to do this is to make manual image each time typing in a new name.

Alternatively if you are always going to do this monthly then you could make a schedule which will require making 12 tasks, then you can give them all different names and just let TIH take care of running them.

Note though to do this, you will have to set the tasks up a day after each other otherwise all 12 tasks will run at the same time.

Another option come to think of it would be that the batch file program that is in Grover's 'True Image guides' might be able to take an Acronis monthly scheduled file and rename it. by default TIH should (if a schedule is used) append numbers to the file name, which the batch file could rename to the month.

Note, if you were happy just to have an archive of - my_disk_image.tib, my_disk_image1.tib, my_disk_image2.tib then TIH does this and you'd only need one task and one schedule.

As for the batch file idea, you could set your single task to run the batch file automatically on completetion to auto rename your files.

This link can help you . In particular, look at figure 8.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705

Why not let the program provide the file name so that each backup would have the actual date as part of the name such as

Backup_@date@-.tib
The above would be the name you assign inside the program and the below would be the result after the backup.

Actual Result= Backup_2012-06-27-.tib

Time also could be added but best not to include if not needed.
-@time@-
dashes and underlines used for separation of characters.

The actual problem you are encountering is that the only place the file name can be changed is when you are in the destination folder as shown in figure 8. When editing a task (editing discouraged) and on the main front, the name you see is the name assigned to the task--not the name assigned to the file. Figure 8 is only place to change the name of the actual file prior to its creation.

I think Grover's date append suggestion is the best of all, much the easiest way to go.

GroverH wrote:

This link can help you . In particular, look at figure 8.
http://forum.acronis.com/forum/28705

That was quick. I told you I must be doing something stupid, and I was right.
Now that I can create and save new images as I modify the computer, I think I'm all set. My old habit was to create a new disk image before making any major changes that I feared might cause problems.

Now that I think I can do it my old way, I may look into some of the more sophisticated options you suggested.

Thanks,

Charles

I've often done manual, one-time backups. I've named them solely with the date and time stamp.

Thanks to everyone for their help. I had purchased new Galaxy S2 phones to replace my old reliable Palm Treo. But I couldn't get the new phones to connect to my antique WinXP machine, and couldn't get the Palm Treo to connect to the new Windows7 machine. I was uncomfortable using unknown drivers to try to get it all working. That was making it sort of a catch22 to get the old data to the new phones.

Once I got the disk image backups working on the new computer, I felt confident enough to try some weird things and third-party drivers to get the Palm working on the new computer. That finally worked, and now I'm ready to move ahead into the new century. :)

Charles

Hi,

seems that this is not saved for all further backups, as well as the name of the scheme is not saved.
Yet I wasn't successful in setting up a set of parameters.
How can I change the "names" displayed in the boxes, and how can I add existing backups to a specific set?

Werner

Falk,

I don't understand your comment for sure. What "names"? Which "boxes?

With 2012, you cannot "add" a backup to an existing backup/chain (like you could do with 2010). Since 2011, ATI sets up "tasks". To add a backup to an existing chain in that sense, you simply run the task in a scheduled fashion, or by clicking on "backup now". If there is no backup now button, ATI is just showing you files it has found on your computer. You can recreate the backup settings based on the file to create a task, or simply create a new task.

Falk,
Recheck post #2 above. The figure 8 in that referenced link shows where the name backup file name can be changed. That is the only place it can be changed. You can delete the default name put there by the program and assign your own preferred name. Once you leave figure8, then that file name becomes the default task name but you can change the task name if you wish but changing the task name does NOT change the original name you assigned to the backup file.

If you want to change the name of the backup file, it can only be done as part of assigning the file name and target folder.

Look at all the illustrations in that link as it illustrates the complete creation of a backup task.

GroverH wrote:

Falk,
Look at all the illustrations in that link as it illustrates the complete creation of a backup task.

I think I was having the same problem as Falk. But when I followed your suggestion, everything worked just like it should have. Perhaps the online manual could be a little clearer, but your instructions solved my problem.
Charles

Thanks Charles. Assigning a backup file name was not easy for me to grasp in very beginning either so I wrote the helper illustration.

GroverH wrote:

Thanks Charles. Assigning a backup file name was not easy for me to grasp in very beginning either so I wrote the helper illustration.

Saving a new backup file under a new name seems to me the most obvious method for a beginner to use. That might be because that was the way the Ghost disk image program did in the Win95 days when I first bought it to maintain computers in a student lab. Perhaps the guys who write the Acronis manual could begin with that simple method and then expand to the more sophisticated methods that Acronis can handle. Just a thought.
Charles

Charles,
My prior post was not clear. I should have stated "The name association between the file and the task name was not easy to grasp." You can change the task name but the other does not change. As you can see from the number of guides that I have posted, my approach to "showing how" differs from the Acronis approach. Ultimately, as long as we understand how they actually do work, our methods can differ.

Hi,

I understand your suggestion to change the name, i.E. to add @date. I did that.
But this new file-name is not *saved*, if I click on "Backup" *next* time I get the original name without @date.
That was my question: how to avoid that?

The task name is obviously derived from the filename of the first backup in a task/chain.
You write that you can change the the *task* name, that was my question: how?

Till now I did not find a method to see which files belong to a task.
I'd like to see for a task a history list, which files a included, when they are created, and the comment to the files.

Hi Pat,

I have a german version, and what you see on the Backup/Recovery register Card is herein called "Box".

Every line seems to represent

- a "task" or "chain", thus a set of similar backups or a "full" with the additional "inc", for example
- a single, not assigned old .tib

Each of these "Boxes" of tasks has name.
- How can I change the name?
- How can I see what *files* are included?

I added (existing) backups to a specific tasks, that works fine.

Falk,

Understood!
If the item listed is a non active task (either an independent file or group of files), you cannot rename them within ATI, but you can rename them in Windows explorer, remove the OLD ones in ATI, then let ATI rediscover or just prevent it from rediscovering them.

If the item list is an active task, you can modify the task name without changing the corresponding TIB files. If you want to modify the TIB files, create a new task and delete the OLD task when it is old enough.

Hi all,

thank you all for your hints.
The missunderstanding in discussion was that some of the answers explained *new" tasks, whereas I was thinking of existing tasks, where filenames etc are to be handked in a different manner.

cu

Werner

I always used to tell my I.T. staff that if they had never done an actual restore, then they could not say they were doing backups. So today I bit the bullet and restored my new computer C Drive from an image file. It worked flawlessly!

Now I can feel a little more at ease when I want to try some new software.

Thanks,
Charles