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Hello, this is problem which is making me a little insecure.

I always choose custom method an choose Incremental: "incrementals will only be created after full backups" (something like that).

Lately, after I create my backup and it is automatically validated, I see that my archive's name is wrong, they are being named as: ")" or ")(" .
In the program itself the archive is named properly and it references the backup location correctly.

What could be happening, even though my archives are validated and all succesful i feel insecure with this wrong file names.

THANKS A lot

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Etam,

This happens in some cases where the users edits the task, in particular the destination, and double check the name proposed for the TIB file.
At this point:
- move the TIB files you have to another directory on the same disk,
- delete the taks in AT
- set up a new task.

A couple of pointers:
- if you do a system backup, make sure you include *all* the partitions that are on your system disk. If the backup is too big, feel free to exclude specific user files and folders, but include the partitions, in particular any hidden partition, and most importantly, the active partition.
- when you set up the backup, click on destination, open up the target folder, then enter the name of archive file (eg"SystemImage"). Don't let the name finish by a numeral or a parenthesis.
- I would not recommend doing incremental only. Best practice is to do a full backup after a limited number of incrementals. The rule of thumb is that your last full validated backup should never get *so* old that you would not find it acceptable to go back to it, if need be. If you have irreplaceable content you cannot lose, back it up separately more often.
- turn on auto-cleaning to keep only the X most recent backup chains (a chain is a full and its following incrementals). You need enough space fo X chains plus one new full for this to work.

Pat L wrote:

Etam,

This happens in some cases where the users edits the task, in particular the destination, and double check the name proposed for the TIB file.
At this point:
- move the TIB files you have to another directory on the same disk,
- delete the taks in AT
- set up a new task.

A couple of pointers:
- if you do a system backup, make sure you include *all* the partitions that are on your system disk. If the backup is too big, feel free to exclude specific user files and folders, but include the partitions, in particular any hidden partition, and most importantly, the active partition.
- when you set up the backup, click on destination, open up the target folder, then enter the name of archive file (eg"SystemImage"). Don't let the name finish by a numeral or a parenthesis.
- I would not recommend doing incremental only. Best practice is to do a full backup after a limited number of incrementals. The rule of thumb is that your last full validated backup should never get *so* old that you would not find it acceptable to go back to it, if need be. If you have irreplaceable content you cannot lose, back it up separately more often.
- turn on auto-cleaning to keep only the X most recent backup chains (a chain is a full and its following incrementals). You need enough space fo X chains plus one new full for this to work.

hi thanks for fast reply, but....
what do you mean include all partitions, I started using True Image (with v10 which was so user friendly) like 2 years ago and never included all the partitions in my system disk!

I just include the partition where the system is and it works, (that should include the boot and active partition and everything)
What would I make a backup of something I don,t want? that would be a waste of space.

1 month ago I started dual booting with 2 OS's in the same HDD.
When I start creating a backup of one of the OS's (C: partition), the program also checks the other OS's parition, when I unchek that, a popup says: "it is recommended to include system reserve partition or something.....",
I always unchek that anyways, because I just want to make a backup of the current OS,
Does this have something to do with my problem or what you are talking about??

THANKs

PS: would you please explain how to create a new task with the old archive as you say??

Edit: another question: how do i stop automatic update in TI?, everyday I see an error in the event log about this, and I don,t use Internet on that computer

Thanks again

I had to unintall TI 2011 cause it s too confusing... back to TI 2010 and all is back to normal....non of these issues and more intuitive

Thanks

Etam,

If you are an advanced user, know well how computers boots, how hidden partitions work, etc. I trust you are doing the right thing.

In doubt, include all partitions, but exclude content in the user partitions you find superfluous to backup.

To stop automatic updates, you can check for new updates, and uncheck check automatically in the dialog box that comes up.

If you have trouble downloading the update this way, you can always download it from your Acronis.com account.

Etam,
It is difficult for Pat or anyone to offer exact suggestions because much depends upon how your computer is configured for your dual booting, etc. If you have the space, I would second Pat's suggestion that you make a full and complete backup to include all partitions including the non-lettered partitions. We hope you do not have any issues but the complete backup would offer some alternatives if you should have boot issues. Think of the backup as a safety precaution or plan B.

Whether your current backups procedures are adequate will not be known until you do a restore of both partitions individually. Should you have problems restoring or needing a new disk, the disk image backup of everything would enable you to do a disk option restore and you would be back up and running with very little delay.

Pat's suggestions in post #1 offer some good advice in how to assign names and kept the backups from each task in separate storage folders.

Yes, there are lots of differences between the 2010 and 2011 versions and the differences are even greater for the 2012 version.

I am not skilled in dual booting but merely offering a few safety precautions to enhance your preparedness.

My suggestion would not to try and build upon a current backup but start a new backup series to a new storage folder.

thanks a lot for your suggestions, but I don t really know what you are talking about. I have always made a backup image of my system and it works, i just tested it, creating a backup of my OS partition is all it takes,

anyways, thanks for your time

[quote=Etam]

Pat L wrote:
What would I make a backup of something I don,t want? that would be a waste of space.

You might not want it, but you need it if you want to recover your system, in case your disk dies. To make sure you include the right partitions, right click on the computer icon on your desktop, choose manage, storage, disk management. Look at your disks and partitions there. You have to include any hidden partition (eg: OEM, recovery, diagnostics, system reserved), the partition(s) that actually contain the OS(es). In particular make sure any active partition is included, *even* if this active partition is on some other disk somewhere in your system.

1 month ago I started dual booting with 2 OS's in the same HDD.
When I start creating a backup of one of the OS's (C: partition), the program also checks the other OS's parition, when I unchek that, a popup says: "it is recommended to include system reserve partition or something.....",
I always unchek that anyways, because I just want to make a backup of the current OS,
Does this have something to do with my problem or what you are talking about??

Yes! You have to include the system reserved partition. Restoring a backup that doesn't include this partition on a new disk will result in a non-bootable system. In certain cases, this cannot be repaired.

....but this "system reserved" partition is my other OS, I have a dual booting hdd with 3 partitions I created and are the only 3 partitions visible on Disk management..

If I merge this two operating systems with the backup, isnt that going to be a mess>>??

You can safely and should include everything in your backup. It is better to have your backup complete and then selectively restore the partition you need to restore, than realizing that your backup doesn't have everything.

If you have a dual-boot system, the boot information is most certainly in the system reserved partition, unless you have installed a third party boot manager.

Pat L wrote:

You can safely and should include everything in your backup. It is better to have your backup complete and then selectively restore the partition you need to restore, than realizing that your backup doesn't have everything.

If you have a dual-boot system, the boot information is most certainly in the system reserved partition, unless you have installed a third party boot manager.

thanks for your patiente,

now i am very insecure about my backup chain since I started installing every program in my OS.
..so I have some questions and observations:

Why my backups used to work just by making an image of my OS partition? I even recovered to a different HDD.!

How can I make the boot information to be in the same partition as the OS? I don,t have all that space for backups.

Does this mean that probably my backups already created are useless?? How can I know if they already contain the boot information?

I have EasyBCD, is that what you mean by a third party boot manager?

I don't have dual boot anymore, I had dual boot in the mean time so I could keep working while installing everything from scratch so I have a more stable OS, once done, I deleted my old OS and moved everything with Partition Magic.

...but now i am worried because I did a series of backups of my new OS in case I have to go back to some specific time in the proccedure.

There has to be a way of knowing where the boot manager is so I can back it up instead of having to backup everything.

...Besides how can I see hidden partitions?? what true image sees is the same as Disk Management sees, except for unallocated spaces.

The most important here for me to know is: how come I did not worried about this in the past and everything worked even at moving to different hdd's ??

Thanks a lot and hope you get along with my english

If you have a system reserved partition, just include it with the OS partition.

What ATI sees and what Windows disk management sees is always the same, and both see any hidden partitions you would have to worry about. If they don't show you any hidden partition other than System Reserved you are good to go.

In the past, Windows OSes were including the boot files on the C:\System partition. WIth Vista, it started to change, and with Win 7, it is generalized: there is now a system reserved partition in most of the cases, in every case when you install on a blank disk and let the installer do its work, and in many cases of computers with OEM installations.

thank you very much
What if I don't see any hidden or system reserved partitions?, right now I have two partitions showing in my system hdd, which are the 2 partitions I manually created, one for the OS and one for multimedia or whatever..

how is my system booting in this case?

If you are looking at disk management, and you see only 2 partitions, the system partition should be system, boot, active, primary. If you make hidden files visible and you don't hide system protected files, you should see the boot files and folders under C:\

hey Pat, thank for keepping up here man!! I appreciated, I am learning some good stuff here.

So in this case, my OS partition have everything it needs to boot succesfully in case I go to another HDD,, right?

....If I go to Disk Management, and my system partition reads: system, boot, active, primary; that means that I never have to worry about system reserved or hidden parttions while creating my images with ATI: true or false?

I have my multisamples hdd (which is not a OS hdd) reading "Active" in Disk management, how come?

I just need to get out of some confusion here, and I always want to be able to make My OS partittion read: Active, Boot, Primary, etc and everything so I never have to worry about OTHER PARTITIONS while creating my backups

thankks

Etam wrote:
If I go to Disk Management, and my system partition reads: system, boot, active, primary; that means that I never have to worry about system reserved or hidden parttions while creating my images with ATI: true or false?

Check that your boot files and folder are indeed in C:\. Then yes, you don't need to worry about something else.

I have my multisamples hdd (which is not a OS hdd) reading "Active" in Disk management, how come?

Somehow users end up with active partitions that don't need to be active. It is not an issue. You can inactivate a partition with Diskpart, if you tend to be a purist :-)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766465%28WS.10%29.aspx
If you inactivate a partition and your computer doesn't boot any longer, you deactivated the wrong one! You will have to be able to boot on your Windows installation CD to fix it with diskpart

I just to get out of some confusion here, and I always want to be able to make My OS partittion read: Active, Boot, Primary, ety and everything so I never have to worry about OTHER PARTITIONS while creating my backups

thankks

This is correct. Remember that if one day you install Win7 on a blank (no preexisting partition) disk, the DVD will automatically create a system reserved partition to store the boot files aside from the C:\system partition.