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what's the success rate of universal restore?

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Hi,

Some years ago , I tried acronis universal restore. the success rate was like 50%. 1 out of 2 different computers i restored to gets blue screen when i boot up.

Now with Acronis True image home 2013, same story.

both cases I uncheck the acronis automatic look for new drivers.

What's your success rate and steps?

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The key is to collect the required drivers, in uncompressed .inf format, before you begin the restore.

the required drivers?

i going to place the odd system into a new hdd. why would i need to collect drivers?

Terry hoho wrote:

the required drivers?

i going to place the odd system into a new hdd. why would i need to collect drivers?

Do you even know what you're asking about, since the thread is so old?

You asked about Universal Restore, which is not moving your system to a replacement HD. Universal Restore is moving an installed system to a new PC with different hardware.

wow guess your technical skill quite horizontal. lol. and today is still march 2013. you must have aged.lol.

You revived a two-week-old thread, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps that's why you forgot what you asked. Fine, if you wish to ignore the time difference. In that case, your comment today makes no sense whatsoever.

You should not need the 'universal restore' feature for merely replacing the drive, if the new drive uses the same connection type and mode as the old one (if old was PATA, new must be PATA; if old was SATA, new must be SATA; if old was SCSI, new must be SCSI; &c).

If you are changing interface (PATA to SATA, perhaps, or moving from a system board connection to a connection on an add-on card), you will probably need it. Also, if you are changing interface mode (PATA emulation to SATA native; SATA native to emulated RAID; &c), you will probably need it. (I have yet to see a chipset whose RAID feature was real hardware instead of software RAID hidden in the BIOS and driver, but there do exist real hardware RAID add-on cards, though almost all of the less expensive ones work in the same way as the chipset RAID, by emulating it in firmware & drivers.)

I am assuming you mean to use this to upgrade a Windows system. I doubt the 'universal restore' feature supports other OSes.

In order to use it, you will need the appropriate OS drivers (on floppy or CD, I think, though perhaps Acronis supports searching for it on a network share?) that came with the device, for use when installing Windows. If you don't have this, hit the manufacturer's (or vendor's) website and make sure you have the correct driver for your device and OS (yes, the drivers are different!). Also, you may need to extract the files (usually they will be in a ZIP or similar archive if you downloaded them, and Acronis did not support looking inside archives the last time I tried it).

Acronis will prompt you for the new drivers at the appropriate time during the 'universal restore'. If you don't have them or they are wrong, the resulting system will probably fail during boot (BOOT_DEVICE_NOT_ACCESSIBLE or similar blue screen).

As for success rate, as long as it's only upgrading the boot device (adding a RAID card or switching from PATA to SATA or similar), my success rate here is good (I had it fail once because I had hoped the Vista driver would work with Win7 and it did not, but it worked once I finally found a Win7 driver). For more drastic upgrades (switching to a new system board), my success rate is poor (but mostly because Windows quickly tells me that it refuses to run due to changing too much of my hardware and that I need to reactivate in order to continue using it -- but then many applications do this now also, so reactivation suddenly becomes a tedious nightmare)...

You should only need to have the driver for the boot device handy (not sure if it allows other driver types). Everything else should be able to be updated once you have booted into Windows after the 'universal restore' finishes, if you changed other hardware as well.

Zac Schroff wrote:

You should not need the 'universal restore' feature for merely replacing the drive, if the new drive uses the same connection type and mode as the old one (if old was PATA, new must be PATA; if old was SATA, new must be SATA; if old was SCSI, new must be SCSI; &c).

If you are changing interface (PATA to SATA, perhaps, or moving from a system board connection to a connection on an add-on card), you will probably need it. Also, if you are changing interface mode (PATA emulation to SATA native; SATA native to emulated RAID; &c), you will probably need it. (I have yet to see a chipset whose RAID feature was real hardware instead of software RAID hidden in the BIOS and driver, but there do exist real hardware RAID add-on cards, though almost all of the less expensive ones work in the same way as the chipset RAID, by emulating it in firmware & drivers.)

I am assuming you mean to use this to upgrade a Windows system. I doubt the 'universal restore' feature supports other OSes.

In order to use it, you will need the appropriate OS drivers (on floppy or CD, I think, though perhaps Acronis supports searching for it on a network share?) that came with the device, for use when installing Windows. If you don't have this, hit the manufacturer's (or vendor's) website and make sure you have the correct driver for your device and OS (yes, the drivers are different!). Also, you may need to extract the files (usually they will be in a ZIP or similar archive if you downloaded them, and Acronis did not support looking inside archives the last time I tried it).

Acronis will prompt you for the new drivers at the appropriate time during the 'universal restore'. If you don't have them or they are wrong, the resulting system will probably fail during boot (BOOT_DEVICE_NOT_ACCESSIBLE or similar blue screen).

As for success rate, as long as it's only upgrading the boot device (adding a RAID card or switching from PATA to SATA or similar), my success rate here is good (I had it fail once because I had hoped the Vista driver would work with Win7 and it did not, but it worked once I finally found a Win7 driver). For more drastic upgrades (switching to a new system board), my success rate is poor (but mostly because Windows quickly tells me that it refuses to run due to changing too much of my hardware and that I need to reactivate in order to continue using it -- but then many applications do this now also, so reactivation suddenly becomes a tedious nightmare)...

You should only need to have the driver for the boot device handy (not sure if it allows other driver types). Everything else should be able to be updated once you have booted into Windows after the 'universal restore' finishes, if you changed other hardware as well.

so you'll need the new system's drivers to pull off a successful universal restore?

Terry hoho wrote:
so you'll need the new system's drivers to pull off a successful universal restore?

Yes. The 'universal restore' feature works by adding the new drivers to the Windows driver pool. This, if successful, allows Windows to see the boot volume in its new location (new device, new interface, new mode, &c) and get going.

I suspect Windows uses mode specific drivers for a number of the drive host controllers (such as those that support PATA emulation and native SATA modes), and needs to have the drivers for the other mode if you change it (even if it tries to make it look like a unified driver). I believe this is a reasonable behaviour (even if it is mildly frustrating), since the device communications protocol and line discipline are radically different between, for example, PATA and SATA, and doing it this way allows specific drivers to be better tailored for the way the hardware operates in a given mode.

Once Windows has started, it will notice the hardware has changed and update things internally as well, so it can see the new hardware properly. Acronis may have already copied the boot driver, but it is possible your hardware will also need additional drivers (special features or other things change even when changing modes for some hardware), so you should have the full drivers somewhere handy even after the 'universal restore' so Windows can finish the driver changes.

None of this can happen, though, if you do not have the proper drivers for the new hardware. Without that, you might as well not be using the 'universal restore' feature.